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Giuliani's Legacy: Taking Credit For Things He Didn't Do
Gotham Gazette ^ | Not listed | Wayne Barrett

Posted on 01/30/2007 7:46:34 AM PST by TommyDale

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Interesting article.
1 posted on 01/30/2007 7:46:36 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: TommyDale

To be frank, I'm not a Rudy supporter, but this article sounds like a total crock of shiite.


2 posted on 01/30/2007 7:51:33 AM PST by pissant
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"To be frank, I'm not a Rudy supporter, but this article sounds like a total crock of shiite."


Consider the source, the Village Voice.
I will bet they gave Clinton allof the credit for the economy of the 90's.


3 posted on 01/30/2007 7:53:28 AM PST by bilhosty (to hell with ABCNNBCBS)
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To: pissant

It's one person's opinion, the author. The statistics manipulation makes sense, especially if people are not actually going down to the precinct and reporting crimes.


4 posted on 01/30/2007 7:53:52 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: TommyDale

The headline would be more accurate if it had the name Clinton instead of Giuliani.
Either one of them.


5 posted on 01/30/2007 7:54:45 AM PST by JerseyDvl ("If you attack Americans, we'll defend your right to do it."- The Democrat Party)
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To: TommyDale
Most celebrants of Rudy Giuliani seem mesmerized by the disappearance of the squeegee men.

Strange. I noticed that the incessant subway begging of the Dinkins years became a rarity on many of the trains; the openly operating hookers, pimps and dealers in Times took a powder and by the time I left, Times Square had become a corporate Disney World. I'm not even mentioning the obvious, overwhelming increase in the police presence on the subways and streets.

Must of been in the wrong city./s

6 posted on 01/30/2007 7:54:58 AM PST by zarf (Giuliani/Hunter 2008)
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To: TommyDale

FINALLY, something besides star-struck, left-wing media driven TRIPE about this liberal northeastern-corridor, inner-city RINO.


7 posted on 01/30/2007 7:55:28 AM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: TommyDale
Interesting article.

LOL. Only because you are so blinded by your animus towards Rudy that you didn't notice the author's failure to provide evidence to support his assertions. And can you tell us what is so interesting about comments like the following?

Under Giuliani, black employment in city government reversed a decades long trend of slow and gradual growth. We actually saw a significant decline in black employment in all city agencies.

Sounds to me like abolition of the cancer known as "affirmative action."

8 posted on 01/30/2007 7:56:25 AM PST by freespirited (Honk for disbarment of Mike Nifong.)
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democrats good Republicans evil blah blah blah
9 posted on 01/30/2007 7:56:31 AM PST by ccc_jr (Klaatu barada nikto)
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To: TommyDale

Short translation: Rudy refused to kiss the *sses of the so-called black leadership in NYC.


10 posted on 01/30/2007 7:56:33 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (Thanks, Nancy, but we already have a Commander In Chief!)
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To: TommyDale
A perfect illustration of the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" technique.

This article is written by an editor of one of the most scurrilous left wing publications around. There are many reasons to disagree with Mr. Giuliani. The words of Wayne Barrett aren't one of them.

11 posted on 01/30/2007 7:56:42 AM PST by wireman
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To: JerseyDvl
Clinton ... Giuliani.

There's a difference?

12 posted on 01/30/2007 7:57:11 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: TommyDale
just reading the article now...

Candidate Rudy promised to wash them out of our hair. While they seemed everywhere, an NYPD report found that there were only 75 of them in 1993, planted like Calvin Klein billboards in unavoidable locations. So Ray Kelly, the police commissioner who worked for Dinkins, heard Giuliani's campaign cry and drove the squeegees off the streets before Rudy raised his own Windex-free right hand on inaugural day. The whole world, years later, thinks Rudy did it -- the predictable result of endless repetition.

So far, the author of this article isn't doing a very good job at getting his point across.

13 posted on 01/30/2007 7:57:14 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: TommyDale

Oh gee .. yet another Rudy article


14 posted on 01/30/2007 7:57:32 AM PST by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: TommyDale

You only needed to live through the Administrations of Lindsay, Beame, Koch, Dinkins and Giuliani and see what the city was like to know that any amount of crediting the drops in Crime, the increased redevelopment and a slew of other advances to ANYTHING Dinkins did isn't going to wash. The Village Voice seemed to exist during the Giuliani administration to criticize anything and everything Giuliani did...that and running ads for call-girl/boy services and having club listings.


15 posted on 01/30/2007 7:59:41 AM PST by Range Rover (Putting a 13th Floor Elevators tune in their ads doesn't make Dell cool..)
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To: TommyDale

911 was the best thing that could have happened for Hillary. After 911, a retarded lizard could have done what Hillary has for New York.


16 posted on 01/30/2007 8:00:33 AM PST by FloridaLivin
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To: TommyDale

I actually consider all of that meaningless when it comes to running my country.

Who has any track record in dealing with terrorists? – Rudy! While this country and the President of the United States was sucking up to Arafat, Rudy had him confined to the hosting Embassy and wouldn’t allow a terrorist to walk the Streets of NYC. If, in the face of the holy wrath of Madeline Albright, the entire United Nations, the President, and all of his cronies, the NY Times, Jimmy Carter, and every bleeding heart Liberal Rudy can effectively tell them all to stick it where the sun don’t shine; then that is the man I want to lead the War On Terror.

Isn’t it amazing how when a courageous man stands on principle, all of the play ground bullies skulk away. Cowards will never stand up to a man with convictions. All of the players I mentioned above backed off because they stood on shaky ground. Rudy stood his ground.

I suppose that this writer feels that Rudy was “Lucky” when 9/11 happened. I know that this country was lucky that he did the job he did. We needed Rudy on that playing field (NYC – 9/11) and until a better LEADER comes along, I see no one else to LEAD this country. As far as I’m concerned, all of the other candidates are managers and not LEADERS.


17 posted on 01/30/2007 8:03:18 AM PST by noname07718
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To: TommyDale
In the final days ... we had 36 consecutive months of decline in the crime statistics.

I might take the author seriously if he had command of the language.

18 posted on 01/30/2007 8:04:50 AM PST by liberallarry
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To: zarf

I can't recall all the details but I think I was in NY for a day in Dec 1993, during the transition. There were the usual homeless and vagrants on the streets, some asking for money. The next time I went was Labor Day, 1994. At first I couldn't figure out what was different. Then I realized what was up. I had not been approached by anyone on the street! Someone asked me what had changed in NYC. I said I guess it must be one word: Rudy!


19 posted on 01/30/2007 8:07:39 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: TommyDale
You would think with all the smear pieces posted this morning against Giuliani we had accidentally stumbled over to DU!
20 posted on 01/30/2007 8:11:26 AM PST by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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