Resources Rolling In For Rudy's Race

Houston Chronicle ^ | 1/29/07

[areafiftyone]

Never mind that former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani is biding his time on "officially" joining the 2008 presidential throng, a number of prominent Houstonians are moving ahead with fundraising efforts on his behalf.

The unannounced Republican candidate, a partner in Houston's Bracewell & Giuliani law firm, steps out at a $2,100 per person cocktail reception at the Houstonian Thursday night. And for those who reach very deep into their pockets — $30,000 deep — a private dinner with Giuliani will follow. This will be the first major dining for dollars event for Giuliani outside of New York.

Among those already committing in a big way to Giuliani are Bracewell & Giuliani managing partner Pat Oxford, national chairman of Giuliani's presidential exploratory committee, and private investor Jim Lee, who serves as Texas finance vice chair.

Expected among the crowd of more than 200 supporters are Debra and Mark Grierson, Titus Harris III, Diane and John Connally III and Sugar Land Mayor David Wallace.

High-profile Texans taking on major roles with the Giuliani campaign include oilman Boone Pickens, who serves as finance chair for the Southwest, and Texas Rangers baseball team owner Tom Hicks, state finance chair.

[hawkaw]

That was my point.

I used a questioning style to make the person think about the differences between the two and why Rudy can make a President and leader.

[Spiff]

Hey Spammy, how 'bout posting a "source" for that info? Or did you make it up?

Just Google some of the names - Bernie Kerik, Fran Reiter, Russell Harding, Raymond Harding. That's what I did.

The "fiscal conservatism" portion came from Reagan Man who got it from the Manhattan Institute website.

[Dark Skies]

Supporting Rudy means beating the Cut and Run Democrats...supporting a weak candidates assures a Democrat victory in 2008 and betrays our troops.

[TommyDale]

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5212a1.htm

"In 2000, the highest numbers of reported legal induced abortions occurred in New York City (94,466), Florida (88,563), and Texas (76,121); the fewest† occurred in Idaho (801), South Dakota (878), and North Dakota (1,341)"

That was just in 2000. How many years was Giuliani the Mayor?

[Dark Skies]

Why is it you guys quote out of thin air and expect anyone to believe you without posting a source?

As a matter of courtesy, please post a source when you post a quote.

[Spiff]

Why don't you read up on Rudy's accomplishments see what he did for NYC when he was mayor.

Sure, compared to Dinkins and Koch, Giuliani did a great job in NYC. So maybe he should run for Mayor of NYC again.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

Rockefeller wing of the Republican Party trying to take over a Conservative site.

[FreeInWV]

More? Here are clients and some more info:

http://www.publicintegrity.org/lobby/profile.aspx?act=firms&year=2003&lo=L000821
http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=125&pid=&sid=1028322&page=2

[Spiff]

But Spammy who can beat the "cut and run" Democrats in 2008? You never seem to answer that question.

It certainly isn't Rudy, that's for sure.

[harrowup]

"...Every time I read that I think that Hillary/Obama supporters are posting here on FR."
BINGO!!! I'm sorry to say this but Some Freepers have turned into rabid leftists! Or maybe they were all the time and we just didn't know it.

They were here; they were just disgruntled self annointed Libertarians pretending to be conservative Republicans, or sillier yet, conservative Libertarians.

That said, watch out for the Giuliani-Kerik LLC link.

[miss marmelstein]

Rudy has certainly brought out the freeper bullies. I have avoided the Rudy threads for several weeks because I've been called all sorts of names or simply had my posts ignored because I talked about his genuine accomplishments rather than post photos of him dressed like Liza Minnelli.

[deport]

Guess the spam is/will start so might as well add the current status of the wannabes so all know how they stack up.... Reckon how many will be able to raise the dollars necessary, maybe up to a $500,000,000, to run and win the presidential race in 08?

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Polling Report.com

Newsweek Poll conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates International. Jan. 24-25, 2007. N=332 registered Republicans and Republican leaners nationwide. MoE ± 6.

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"Suppose the race for the Republican Party's presidential nomination in 2008 comes down to a choice between [see below]. Who would you MOST like to see nominated?" If other/unsure: "As of TODAY, do you LEAN more toward [see below]?"
						.
		Rudy Giuliani	John McCain	Unsure
		%	%	%
	1/24-25/07	48	44	8
						.
		Rudy Giuliani	Mitt Romney	Unsure
		%	%	%
	1/24-25/07	72	17	11
						.
		John McCain	Mitt Romney	Unsure
		%	%	%
	1/24-25/07	69	19	12

 

Time Poll conducted by Schulman, Ronca & Bucuvalas (SRBI) Public Affairs. Jan. 22-23, 2007. N=441 registered voters nationwide who are Republicans or lean Republican.

					.
"Now I'm going to read a list of candidates who might be running for the Republican Party presidential nomination in 2008. If the Republican presidential primary or caucus in your state were being held today, listen carefully to the names and then tell me which candidate you would be most likely to vote for. . . ." Names rotated
					.
		%
	John McCain	30
	Rudy Giuliani	26
	Newt Gingrich	14
	Mitt Romney	5
	Sam Brownback	3
	George Pataki	2
	Tom Tancredo	1
	Chuck Hagel	1
	Mike Huckabee	1
	Jim Gilmore	1
	Other (vol.)	1
	Unsure	14
	Won't vote (vol.)	1
					.
"What if your choices for the Republican nomination were just John McCain, Mitt Romney, and Rudy Giuliani -- which one would you vote for?" Names rotated
					.
		%
	John McCain	43
	Rudy Giuliani	40
	Mitt Romney	8
	None of these (vol.)	1
	Unsure	8

 

CNN Poll conducted by Opinion Research Corporation. Jan. 19-21, 2007. N=365 registered voters nationwide who are Republicans or lean Republican. MoE ± 5.

					.
"Please tell me which of the following people you would be most likely to support for the Republican nomination for president in the year 2008. . . ." Names rotated
					.
		1/19-21/07	12/5-7/06	11/17-19/06	10/27-29/06	8/30 - 9/2/06
		%	%	%	%	%
	Rudy Giuliani	32	29	33	29	32
	John McCain	26	24	30	27	21
	Newt Gingrich	9	13	9	12	12
	Mitt Romney	7	6	9	7	6
	Jim Gilmore	3	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a
	George Pataki	3	2	1	5	3
	Sam Brownback	2	2	2	1	1
	Chuck Hagel	1	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a
	Mike Huckabee	1	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a
	Duncan Hunter	1	1	2	n/a	n/a
	Ron Paul	1	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a
	Tom Tancredo	1	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a
	Tommy Thompson	1	2	3	n/a	n/a
	Unsure	12	23	8	11	14
	Bill Frist	n/a	n/a	3	6	4
	George Allen	n/a	n/a	n/a	2	7

 

ABC News/Washington Post Poll. Jan. 16-19, 2007. N=344 leaned Republicans nationwide. MoE ± 5. Fieldwork by TNS.

					.
"If the 2008 Republican presidential primary or caucus in your state were being held today, and the candidates were [see below], for whom would you vote?" Names rotated
					.
		1/16-19/07	12/7-11/06
		%	%
	Rudy Giuliani	34	34
	John McCain	27	26
	Newt Gingrich	9	12
	Mitt Romney	9	5
	George Pataki	2	3
	Sam Brownback	1	1
	Jim Gilmore	1	n/a
	Mike Huckabee	1	-
	Ron Paul	1	n/a
	Tom Tancredo	1	-
	Tommy Thompson	1	2
	Chuck Hagel	-	-
	Duncan Hunter	-	1
	None of these (vol.)	2	6
	Unsure	9	9
	Wouldn't vote (vol.)	1	-

 

Gallup Poll. Jan. 12-14, 2007. N=412 Republicans and Republican leaners nationwide. MoE ± 5.

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"Next, I'm going to read a list of people who may be running in the Republican primary for president in the next election. After I read all the names, please tell me which of those candidates you would be most likely to support for the Republican nomination for president in the year 2008, or if you would support someone else. . . ." Names rotated. Rice was included in the list of candidates in 2006.
					.
		1/12-14/07	12/11-14/06	11/9-12/06
		%	%	%
	Rudy Giuliani	31	28	28
	John McCain	27	28	26
	Newt Gingrich	10	8	7
	Mitt Romney	7	4	5
	George Pataki	3	1	1
	Tommy Thompson	2	2	n/a
	Jim Gilmore	2	n/a	n/a
	Sam Brownback	1	2	1
	Mike Huckabee	1	2	1
	Chuck Hagel	1	1	1
	Condoleezza Rice (vol.)	1	12	13
	Duncan Hunter	-	1	-
	Someone else	2	1	2
	None (vol.)	3	3	3
	Unsure	10	7	7
	George Allen	n/a	2	2
	Bill Frist	n/a	n/a	4

[Dark Skies]

If we don't defeat the cut and run democrats in 2008, this country will have suffered a major defeat in this war against islamofascism.

Who do you recommend to beat the Hillary/Obama crowd that we can get behind?

To me the war is THE issue of 2008. Losing it is not an option.

Again, who other than Gingrich or Rudy can beat Hillary et al?

[Spiff]

Rudy Giuliani: The Knight and ‘The Queen’ 11/28/2001

According to The London Times, New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani gives kisses before he leaves every morning, but to neither his estranged wife, nor his girlfriend. Instead, says The Times, “Sir Rudy” gives a peck on the cheek to the two homosexual men he’s living with.

“We always get a little kiss, it’s cute,” says wealthy car dealer Howard Koeppel, with whom Giuliani has been sharing an apartment since June. When Giuliani was recently knighted, Koeppel tells The Times that he told “Sir Rudy” to call him “Queen Howard.” Koeppel (63) and his homosexual lover Mark Hsiao (41) have been comforting Giuliani, and trying to make him laugh, in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks.

On the way to a recent fundraising dinner for the pro-homosexual state lobby group, The Empire State Pride Agenda (ESPA), Koeppel ribbed Giuliani by saying that if the ESPA was able to raise $100,000 donation for the homosexual victims of the September 11 attacks, Giuliani should agree to appear on Showtime’s controversial Queer as Folk dressed in drag. Surprisingly, Giuliani agreed.

Marty Algaze of Gay Men’s Health Crisis once summed up Queer as Folk — a show that touts graphic sexual activity as one of its biggest draws — as one that would “shock a lot of people.” Showtime’s Queer as Folk was inspired by the original series in Britain, which featured a storyline in which a 29-year-old man has a sexual relationship with a 15-year-old boy.

The propensity to shock people is not new to Giuliani, who likes to dress in women’s clothes as a stage act, and even did so once at a Pride Agenda fund-raiser.

According to the Times, Giuliani has attended every “gay pride” parade in New York during his eight years as mayor. In 1992, during his first run for mayor, Giuliani took part in a homosexual “pride” parade that included a contingent of pedophile activists marching behind a banner for NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association).

— Ken Ervin

[Nextrush]

Hillary Clinton's plan and don't forget that last name "Clinton" is to divide Republicans and we should be alert for splitting efforts right here on this website.

So I'm open to anyone but McCain right now and that includes Mr. Giuliani. Lets relax and listen to what these people are saying. Lets see if they have a good message or a bad one.

Rudy will be tough on crime and terror. That alone P.O.'s the liberals big time. The other issues are there and Rudy will have to find a way to keep them out of the picture and let Hillary get the Gay-Pro-Choice endorsements. Heck, those left-wing wackos already have her as their choice.....

[areafiftyone]

Mariabush:

Answer me this - Have I ever gone on a Hunter Thread and bashed Duncan Hunter? Or a Romney thread and Bashed him? I actually post positive posts on their threads. I am on the Duncan Hunter Ping list and am more than happy to go on Hunter posts and commend him for anything he does that I like - And I am not voting for him in the primary either but that doesn't matter to me. I'll do the same for Romney too. Why do you guys have to come on this thread and act so desperate and nasty. These posts are supposed to be discussions not nasty threads. EVERY SINGLE ONE turns out to be hate filled and nasty and not even an adult discussion. Don't you guys think that everyone who scans the internet and checks out these posts thinks that this conservative forum is not a good place to discuss issues and gets turned off? I would if I were them.

[TommyDale]

Even if you just average the abortion numbers for New York City in the years 1993 to 2000, there were nearly 800,000 legal abortions reported. How many were illegal or went unreported? That confirms my statement that nearly one million abortions were performed while Giuliani was mayor.

[miss marmelstein]

I'm no expert but what can a mayor do to stop federally enforced abortion laws? I totally disagree with Guiliani's stance on abortion (and am desperately hoping he flip flops on this issue)but I'm not sure what he could do to stop abortions in NY.

Guiliani is not responsible for the murder of unborn babies; their parents are.

[veronica]

Perhaps. But I can tell you that my liberal acquaintances don't like Hillary. In particular women I know don't like her. These are die-hard, life-long liberals. I know these people won't vote for her. In fact one of them is reading Ed Klein's book about Hillary, and now they all want to read it.

[Spiff]

Answer me this - Have I ever gone on a Hunter Thread and bashed Duncan Hunter?

I would hope not. This is a CONSERVATIVE website with a long history of bashing LIBERALS. It wouldn't be appropriate to bash fine conservative Republicans like Representative Duncan Hunter. Bashing liberals like Giuliani is what we do here. I thought you figured it out by now. How long have you been here?