You said -- "its all fine for people to eulogize europe before its dead, but remember europe was in this position before!"
That was before they turned into Euro-weenies. They no longer have the desire for defending themselves. And back then, when they did defend themselves, they not only had their kingdoms and countries to fight for, but they believed that there was a God to fight for, too. They no longer believe that. It's only the Muslims who think they have a god to fight for, even if it is a false god.
They're history..., Islam is on the rise.
Regards,
Star Traveler
i am not a cut-and-run lib, and there is a God to fight for. who would have thought in 1980 the ussr would have been brought down?
As I have posted before, the USA is going to see a lot of Europeans who are not Muslim coming over to the USA escape that horror.