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To: HairOfTheDog

Actually Hair, they do make a hand-held artificial v. The stallion doesn't have to mount anything to use it. It does take a well-trained stallion and expert handler though. I know of a number of warmblood breeders who use it.

But again as has been pointed out many times, the Jockey Club does not allow AI and will pull the papers on anyone who gets caught doing it. It has happened and the perpetrators were punished by having not only the stallion's papers pulled, but also the papers of ALL of his get foaled after the AI was done.


23 posted on 01/28/2007 3:59:02 PM PST by ShakeNJake
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To: ShakeNJake; Rte66

Ah - thanks for the correction on the gadgetry... even if it was allowed, as a young 'virgin' stallion, I don't know if they could get him to use such a thing or not :~)


26 posted on 01/28/2007 4:18:36 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: ShakeNJake

Seems like kind of a stupid distinction. Unless there's something about "natural breeding" that imparts skills or DNA differently than AI, I don't get it.

I mean, I get not allowing him to have special "papers", that's just rules. But anybody who is buying a horse would know the parent's genes, and it seems that a rose by any other name would smell as sweet -- in other words, with or without special "papers" indicating the greatness of the horse, the foal would have the same chance of being a winner.

Or don't we allow non-papered horses to even race?


84 posted on 01/29/2007 10:10:06 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: ShakeNJake

Hairofthedog is correct that it is against Jockey Club rules to use artificial insemination. Now, Tennessee Walking horses do allow AI for their registry but the mare and the stallion must be in the same proximity (same grounds). A hand held "boot" is used to collect the semen. The stallion mounts a "hobbled" mare that's usually in heat and the stallion is directed into the boot by another handler.
My dad was in the walking horse and the thoroughbred breeding business. We used to stand about 6 world champion walking horses and normally had about 300-400 mares on the property at a time for breeding or between cycles. I should know, I cleaned stalls (thanks dad for using cheap labor and all those wonderful memories... /grin .... at least it built my physical strength, character, and a resolve to not have anything to do with the horse business when I grew up). Prayers and best wishes for a gallant fighter, Barbaro!


107 posted on 01/29/2007 10:50:26 AM PST by Mustng959
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