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First of all, you said "States", now you narrow it down to one state (if you can even call it that ;~) which by every definition of the time was South of the Mason-Dixon line (look it up if you don't know where the Mason-Dixon line is). Delaware had fewer slaves in the entire state than even small counties or large plantations in South Carolina.

There were 4 "Loyal Union States" that had slaves, and none of them were "Northern". All four were referred to at the time as "Border States" --- Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland and as you said, tiny little Delaware.

None seceded from the Union for the simple reason that the 30 years of arguments over expansion that culminated with the election of Lincoln had little to do with the economics of those states. Slavery was simply not what the majority relied on for their livelihood in those 4 states.

It was a direct correlation between the economic importance of expansion and the economies of the states (even counties) to the fervor for secession. Virginia is a great example. In the Eastern tidewater where slave population was very high and slavery was a still money making proposition, secession was "popular." In the Western mountain counties with very few slaves and the beginnings of heavy industry along the Ohio Valley, there was so little support for secession, they ended up telling the Eastern aristocrats in Richmond to go the hell and created their own state of West Virginia. The Slave Power did not rule the Hill Billies.

BTW. I am damn sick and tired of hearing the neo-confederate bs from the historically illiterate that there were "Northern Slave States." None of those states were "Northern" so strike that bit of misinformation from you list of favorite fantasies.

BTW. If the Confederacy was not about slavery, were there any Confederate "Free States"? Can you name one?

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The 4 previously mentioned states remained in the Union. The other states seceeded to form the Confederacy. Union states are commonly referred to as Northern. Simple.

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If the Confederacy was not about slavery, were there any Confederate "Free States"?

Try asking it this way: If the Union was fighting to free slaves, were there any Union Slave states? You mentioned them in your previous post.

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First of all, you said "States"

No I did not, go back and check. Further more if you look at a map of the mason Dixon line Delaware is on the "Northern" side. If you want to get technical the size of the state does not matter it is still a state. Missouri could be said to be a northern state, that is what the fight was about over the 36'30' parallel. If the Confederacy was not about slavery, were there any Confederate "Free States"? Can you name one?

I have never said there was. Now let me ask you a question, since the obliteration of the 10th Amendment are their now "any" free states, what so ever?

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"There were 4 "Loyal Union States" that had slaves,"

FYI Missouri voted to secede and her secession was accepted by the newly constituted Southern government. She was counted as the 12th star on the Battle flag.



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