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To: HairOfTheDog
My point is that Cesar is a con job looking for a mark. I teach kids in 4H how to train their dogs. No one will ever convince me he is special because he can do what a 9 year old kid can do with proper training and techniques. The world that you speak of is totally foreign to me. All of my friends and their children work around animals every day. Kids here learn how to work the dogs and sit a horse working cattle at a young age.
When I was in the military I had a buddy from NYC who didn't know how to drive. I thought that was the stupidest thing I had ever heard. I learned to drive a tractor when I was 6 or 7 and was running around town in an old military jeep when I was 10. He educated me in that most people who live "In the city" can't afford to own a car with the parking fees and parking restrictions.
We truly live in different worlds.
51 posted on 01/31/2007 12:53:36 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: oldenuff2no

You and ~I~ don't live in different worlds, I also grew up around animals. His clients are largely untrained people who did not have the benefit of learning from you in 4H class. You're just being an arrogant curmudgeon because something about his fame and fortune has gotten under your skin.


52 posted on 01/31/2007 1:05:24 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: oldenuff2no

If it wasn't for people like him showing the rest of the non-working dog training world, little ankle biters and big dogs with big problems would never change, or their owners wouldn't, I should say. Of course, in an area where animals are used for work and show instead of lawn ornaments, you would need someone more adept at handling those kinds of animals. But his show is about regular "city" people and their inability to simply be the boss.

Cesar makes it very clear on his show that he does NOT train the dogs. He trains the owners on how to handle them. He came from Mexico as an illegal alien, admits he hasn't been certified and learned his techniques while working as a groomer or kennel person, and seems pretty modest about what he does. His whole show is about clueless owners and I think even though some of the cases I have seen will probably never change, overall his work has had positive results.

If the "city" people's dogs had real jobs, they wouldn't need him in the first place. Most of what he seems to tell these owners is that they don't do well with no work, no exercise, mixed signals, and inconsistency. People with working dogs don't have to experience this because their dogs are trained and kept busy.


53 posted on 01/31/2007 4:05:54 PM PST by solosmoke
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