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To: dynoman; AdamSmithWasRight
It is unbelievable. It is unbelievable that some here presume to deny this Muslim his membership in the community we enjoy as Americans. And I think it beyond the pale for some here to question this gentleman's loyalty to America.

Unlike many of you, who state that a Muslim cannot be an American, this Muslim has earned the right to call himself an American. He has, by virtue of his post, as we all know the case to be, alienated himself from a substantial portion of the Muslim community. Moreover he has emblazoned a scarlet letter upon himself which marks him not just for ostracism but for death. Think about that before branding him as unfit and rejecting him.

Like Christianity, Islam is a great force and has the capacity to unify, focus and motivate billions. To cut Islam out of a Muslim is to remove his spirit and moral fiber. I think it much wiser to avoid the wholesale lobotomization of Muslims and instead to work to channel and reform such spirit and morality into impassioned Americana. You cannot stand against Islam as one cannot stand against the force of the Mississippi. But you can turn it and by doing so harness its great energy.

Many forget the countless bloody struggles by secular societies to harness or accommodate Christianity and vice versa. But, the backbone of what made America great, are the moral precepts which are central tenents of the Christian Faith.

I'm not naive. I am the first to scrutinize Muslims. I am a zealous supporter of the war in Iraq and only find fault in the fact that we have not leveled Iran. I was the first to make my Muhammad Cartoon shirt because I find censorship abominable. And, Yes I understand we have an awesome military and nuclear arsenal and that we could in fact stand against the river I mentioned above through the waging of atomic/biological/chemical warfare. But this will never happen. Yes I agree that Islam as currently practiced is incompatible with civilized society as I see it. Yes, I obviously don't believe in moral relativism. Yes I am aware that certain teachings in the Koran are antithetical to Western Democracy. But, having said all this, I'd note that if you think the Old Testament does not also contain such things then you have not read it. And if you think that Christianity was always tame then you have not read your history.

As Christianity has changed such that it now exists in a symbiotic relationship with Democracy so too can Islam. As the Yoga professor, who I never had, once never taught me, you must turn the great force of your opponent and put it to your uses.

That said, the only way to transform Islam is to garner its respect. Islam respects the sword and the strong. Therefore the first matter at hand is the non pc waging of war. By all appearances America is incapable of doing this. For this I wish to thank the democrats and their msm allies for making us look like Pansy's.
203 posted on 01/26/2007 1:23:08 PM PST by StructuredChaos
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To: StructuredChaos

Excellent rebuttal.


216 posted on 01/26/2007 1:44:24 PM PST by jcb1379
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To: StructuredChaos

Bravo.


221 posted on 01/26/2007 1:51:24 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: StructuredChaos
" As Christianity has changed such that it now exists in a symbiotic relationship with Democracy so too can Islam." It has not. Christianity, not a word of it- has changed. It BROUGHT democracy to the western world, not learned to exist along side it. What has changed in Christianity is the people, and the leaders of people. No longer do we rely on the interpretations of a single priest/church. People can now read what the gospel says for themselves. This came about with the protestant movement, when scripture was nailed to a church door for all to read.
230 posted on 01/26/2007 2:01:57 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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