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Plan for superhighway ripped as 'urban legend'
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | January 26, 2007 | Jerome Corsi

Posted on 01/26/2007 6:42:51 AM PST by Paul Ross

Plan for superhighway ripped as 'urban legend'

Congressman, DOT undersecretary disagree over threat to sovereignty

By Jerome R. Corsi
January 26, 2007, WorldNetDaily.com


Jeffrey N. Shane, undersecretary for DOT

Jeffrey N. Shane, undersecretary for DOT Congressmen and a policy official of the Department of Transportation engaged in a spirited exchange over whether NAFTA Super Highways were a threat to U.S. sovereignty or an imaginary "Internet conspiracy," such as the "black helicopter myths," advanced by fringe lunatics.

At a meeting Wednesday of the Subcommittee on Highways and Transit of the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, Jeffrey N. Shane, undersecretary of transportation for policy at the U.S. Department of Transportation, testified.

During the questioning by committee members, Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas, asked Shane about the existence of plans for a "NAFTA superhighway."

Shane responded he was "not familiar with any plan at all, related to NAFTA or cross-border traffic."

After further questioning by Poe, Shane stated reports of NAFTA superhighways or corridors were "an urban legend."

At this, the chairman, Rep. Peter DeFazio, D-Ore., questioned aloud whether Shane was just "gaming semantics" when responding to Poe's question.

"Mr. Shane was either blissfully ignorant or he may have been less than candid with the committee," Poe told WND in a telephone interview.

Asked about the Department of Transportation's work with Dallas-based trade group NASCO, the North American SuperCorridor Coalition Inc., and the Texas Department of Transportation plans to build the Trans-Texas Corridor, Poe told WND "the NAFTA superhighway plans exist to move goods from Mexico through the United States to Canada. It appears to be another one of the open-border philosophies that chips away at American sovereignty, all in the name of so-called trade."

Poe said there are security obstacles to the project that must be addressed.

"I don't understand why the federal government isn't getting public input on this," he said. "We get comments like Mr. Shane's instead of our own government asking the people of the United States what they think about all of this. This big business coming through Mexico may not be good business for the United States."

Poe continued to insist "the public ought to make this decision, especially the states that are affected, such as Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, and all the way through up to Canada. The public needs to make input on this. So, I don't understand, unless there's some other motive, why the public isn't being told about these plans and why the public is not invited to make input."

Rep. Virgil Goode, R-Va., introduced House Concurrent Resolution 40 earlier this week to express the sense of Congress that the United States should not build a NAFTA superhighway system and should not enter into an agreement with Mexico and Canada to form a North American Union.

Asked to comment on Shane's response to Poe, Goode dismissed Shane's claim that NAFTA superhighways were just another "urban legend."

"Let's take Mr. Shane at his word. Let Mr. Shane come over here from the Department of Transportation and endorse House Concurrent Resolution 40," he said. "If, in his mind he's not doing anything to promote a NAFTA superhighway and he's not doing anything to promote the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, then he won't mind joining his voice with ours to be in opposition to any such 'urban legend,' as he so calls it."

Goode added this comment in a playful retort to Shane's attempt to dismiss the discussion: "My prediction is Mr. Shane will run for the timber."

In a serious tone, Goode objected to Shane's attempt to play what he agreed was a game of semantics.

"When President Bush had the meeting in Waco, Texas, the three leaders called the new arrangement the 'Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America,' SPP for short," Goode said. "But, as is suggested by Congressman DeFazio at the hearing, the intent of people like Mr. Shane is to use different words and different names as a way to deflect attention from what they are really doing."

Asked about White House Press Secretary Snow's denial that there was any White House plan to create a North American Union, Goode's reply also was direct.

"I guess Mr. Snow is saying that a Security and Prosperity Partnership and a North American Union are not one and the same," he said. "That's just the use of his words, but is he denying that President Bush, President Fox and Prime Minister Martin had the meeting and came up with the Security and Prosperity Partnership in 2005? I doubt it."

Also present in the audience at the subcommittee meeting was Rod Nofzinger, director of Government Affairs for the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association. Nofzinger told WND Shane's denial struck him as less than genuine. In an e-mail to WND, Nofzinger commented:

"Considering what we know about the Bush administration's efforts to open the border to Mexican trucks and that DOT officials have met with groups such as NASCO, I was truly surprised to hear Mr. Shane say flat out that he had no knowledge of plans or meetings related to NAFTA or cross-border surface trade corridors."

Substantiating Nofzinger's argument is a speech Secretary of Transportation Norman Y. Mineta gave April 30, 2004, at a NASCO forum in Fort Worth, Texas. Mineta told the NASCO meeting:

"NAFTA has opened the doors to expanding and flourishing trade across our borders. Since its implementation, total U.S. trade with Mexico has increased almost 200 percent – with 70 percent of the U.S./Mexico trade passing through Texas.

"There are, however, some things that we still need to do in the United States to fulfill our obligations under the NAFTA treaty. One of them is to finally open the market between Mexico and the United States for trucking and busing."

Mineta continued:

"And to our friends from Mexico who are here today, I say, 'Welcome, and get ready.' Opening the border is of mutual benefit."

Specifically referring to Interstate Highways 35, 29 and 94 – the core highways supported by NASCO as a prime "North American Super Corridor" – Mineta commented:

"You also recognized that the success of the NAFTA relationship depends on mobility – on the movement of people, of products, and of capital across borders. "The people in this room have vision. Thinking ahead, thinking long-term, you began to make aggressive plans to develop the NASCO trade corridor – this vital artery in our national transportation through which so much of our NAFTA traffic flows.

"It flows across our nation's busiest southern border crossing in Laredo; over North America's busiest commercial crossing, the Ambassador Bridge in Detroit; and through Duluth, and Pembina, North Dakota, and all the places in between."

In a statement provided WND by e-mail, DeFazio cut past Shane's attempt to dismiss the subject by ridicule, writing:

In the hearing, Undersecretary of Transportation for Policy Jeff Shane, in response to a question from Representative Ted Poe, said the NAFTA superhighway was an urban legend. Whatever the case, it is a fact that highway capacity is growing to and from the border to facilitate trade, and there is no doubt that the volume of imports from Mexico has soared since NAFTA, straining security at the U.S. border. Plans of Asian trading powers to divert cargo from U.S. ports like Los Angeles to ports in Mexico will only put added pressure on border inspectors. The U.S. needs to invest in better border security, including enhanced screening of cargo crossing our land borders.

Shane declined to comment for this article.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government
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To: mysterio
They can get good manufacturing jobs as soon as we revoke NAFTA.

I think 50% of the population once worked on farms. You think 50% can get manufacturing jobs now?

You know that manufacturing jobs increased after NAFTA? Or didn't you see that while you were surfing the Public Citizen site? LOL!

81 posted on 01/26/2007 6:57:33 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
I think it's a question of if the helicopters belong to a top secret, UN or NAU type organization. As I recall (and the black helicopter thing has been around for at least 12 years, starting about the time of Waco), the only person ever to imply that black helicopters belonged to a secret UN conspiracy trying to take over the world was a radio talk show personality who generally dismisses the idea of conspiracies. Those who mistakenly -- in his half-brained opinion -- believe the Randy Weaver incident, the Branch Davidian massacre, the downing of TWA Flt 800, or the strange deaths surrounding Bill Clinton were more than just ordinary happenings are labeled "Keepers Of Odd Knowledge" by this self-professed revealer of all truth with his mind "on loan from G-O-D."

Besides which, everyone should know that UN helicopters, like their APCs and tanks, are uniformly painted white with bold black lettering.

82 posted on 01/26/2007 6:59:17 PM PST by logician2u
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To: mysterio
I said good paying manufacturing jobs.

You've said lots of things with nothing to back you up.

You going to show that manufacturing wages dropped since NAFTA? Now that you've admitted that the number of jobs didn't shrink.

83 posted on 01/26/2007 6:59:54 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
You still don't know what happened in Mexico at that time, do you? Poor ignorant little man.

Yes, I know about the economic crisis that happened. But now it's fixed, thanks to NAFTA, right? Well, not really. It took a big bailout loan to stop it.
84 posted on 01/26/2007 7:01:58 PM PST by mysterio
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To: mysterio
Yes, I know about the economic crisis that happened.

What caused the crisis? Could that be why their wages fell? LOL!

But now it's fixed, thanks to NAFTA, right?

Reducing their trade with the US will help Mexico's economy, right?

85 posted on 01/26/2007 7:05:23 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot


The area where I live has been a casualty. We've lost several factories to Mexico or to globalization. Not everyone lost money, though. The group of consultants that organized the restructuring gave themselves millions as a reward.

In your defense, wages in manufacturing have kept up with wages in general. However, productivity has skyrocketed, and the increase in wages does not reflect that increase in productivity.



The ability of any manufacturing facility to threaten to pick up and outsource has removed a lot of the bargaining power workers used to have. But I'll admit, that's the new global economy, and until workers in the cheap labor countries demand better compensation, we're going to see more of the same.

After a couple of hours of perusing charts, I have to concede that if we protected worker's wages in America, we would be able to export even less since the rest of the world isn't following suit. Cheap labor is a reality.

It's just that not everyone is college material, and the new economy is making a college degree as essential as the high school degree was 20 years ago. Therefore, a college degree is now worth less, and those who would have gone into good paying manufacturing jobs are now going to demand that someone pay for them to go to college. Taxpayers will pick up that tab.

It's unavoidable, though. At least my job isn't wading through economic data. My eyes are about ready to pop out of my head from all the charts. If that's what you do for a living, you have my respect for it, lol.
86 posted on 01/26/2007 8:29:49 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Reducing their trade with the US will help Mexico's economy, right?

Probably not, but increasing workers' salaries might. A population of broke people don't contribute much to a healthy economy.



And also in your defense, foreign investment probably helped reverse the crash.


87 posted on 01/26/2007 8:42:56 PM PST by mysterio
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To: mysterio

So much for NAFTA killing all our high paying jobs. (That's 1982 dollars)

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After 7 full years of NAFTA, manufacturing jobs were higher. So much for NAFTA killing all our manufacturing jobs.

88 posted on 01/26/2007 8:54:32 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: mysterio
Probably not, but increasing workers' salaries might. A population of broke people don't contribute much to a healthy economy.

Maybe if they bought more expensive stuff their salaries would miraculously increase? LOL!

And also in your defense, foreign investment probably helped reverse the crash.

Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks? You think just maybe foreign investment helps our economy grow?

89 posted on 01/26/2007 9:04:33 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: 1rudeboy

" One would think that you'd have learned that from your protectionist colleagues by now."

Is it protectionist to want what you, and your forefathers, have worked for? What you, and your forefathers, have fought in wars for?

I'm all for free trade. But I'm NOT for giving it all away. It should be a level playing field, or none at all.


:O)

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90 posted on 01/26/2007 10:15:55 PM PST by papasmurf (Join Team 36120 Free Republic Folders. Folding@Home Enter Name:FRpapasmurf)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

NAFTA sucks.

I'm sorry, I have no links with which to bolster my claim.

The only document I have, that might help, is my micro retirement account. Oh, and the ever increasing number of illegal miscreants crossing our borders each year.

I hope you understand.


:O)

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91 posted on 01/26/2007 10:24:46 PM PST by papasmurf (Join Team 36120 Free Republic Folders. Folding@Home Enter Name:FRpapasmurf)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Does that take into account the legal and illegal increase in population?


I thought not.

:O)

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92 posted on 01/26/2007 10:26:34 PM PST by papasmurf (Join Team 36120 Free Republic Folders. Folding@Home Enter Name:FRpapasmurf)
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To: C210N
How about this. No one is talking about it. Its on a government web site

http://www.spp.gov/

To sum it up. No boarders between US, Mexico and Canada. Now we know why the politicians do not care.
93 posted on 01/26/2007 11:47:39 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: mysterio
All so we can save 50 cents on veggies and get the hammer for $7 instead of $10.

Yeah, but they will throw in the sickle for free...

94 posted on 01/27/2007 12:08:25 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: C210N

There is no SPP...move along now...nothing to see...


/jedi mindtricks


95 posted on 01/27/2007 12:16:02 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Rudy is Hillary, in drag, with more personal baggage.)
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To: C210N

The general subject is transportation, yes? How many millions of people fly in commercial jets per year? How much traffic moves every day? How much marine traffic every month? It's a BUSY world.

Instead of arguing over a relatively small transport corridor, why not think BIG, like a world wide mag-lev train network? Big jets can carry only limited payloads and the energy cost per mile per pound is HIGH. Steel wheels on rails are much cheaper than rubber tires on pavement, and ships are cheaper still.

A mag-lev train has virtually no loss in lift and EM drag REDUCES with increasing velocity(the sheath effect). A mag-lev train can be MILES long vs the short jumbo jet. As they can travel at up to 300+mph they HAVE to be on raised pylons, like monorails.

Bullet trains have long been in operation in france and japan, and the europeans have an extensive railroad network that runs like clockwork. And yet out own amtrak is slowly going out of business. If there ever was a time to consider mag-lev trains as the future of ground transportation, now is the moment. Why not a mag-lev RR line from tierra del fuego to point barrow, to the chunnel? THINK BIG!


96 posted on 01/27/2007 12:57:53 AM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: mysterio

Alot of that output has come through modernization and robotics. The same thing would happen right now in the US if Nafta went away. Your high barriers to entry into manufacturing are either Labor, or technological. Techno and Robotics is getting cheaper because of benefits. Plus you don't have workers screwing up production lines.


97 posted on 01/27/2007 1:43:24 AM PST by SShultz460
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To: papasmurf
It should be a level playing field, or none at all.

I completely agree. The problem is, when you enter into an agreement that essentially says, "I won't tax you if you won't tax me," it doesn't matter. You'll always have some populist demagogue (on the Left or Right, it doesn't matter--in this regard they are nearly identical) standing in front of a shuttered factory and crying, "waah, it's not fair!" And then you have otherwise reasonable people chiming in, "well, I'm in favor of fairness." The process will never stop, even if we move to either a 100% libertarian free-market model, or a 100% statist protectionist model.

98 posted on 01/27/2007 4:47:09 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Sprite518
"No one is talking about it [the SPP]."

Get real. Rarely a day passes when we don't talk about it. Maybe you meant to say, "no one is saying what I want to hear about it?"

99 posted on 01/27/2007 4:54:33 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: EternalVigilance
There is no SPP...move along now...nothing to see....

Do you realize that your response was directed to someone who posted a link to the SPP website? ROTFLMAO

100 posted on 01/27/2007 4:56:24 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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