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"Bowing down to NRA is dangerous" [Barf Alert]
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | 1/23/07 | CLIFFORD M. HERMAN

Posted on 01/25/2007 8:27:58 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

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To: beltfed308; robertpaulsen
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/engblom.html is an interesting read.

It's unconstitutional for National Guard members to operate a prison during a strike by public employees? Public buildings are the same as private residences if union members sometimes sleep there on the job?

Even the majority in your split decision citation admit that they could only arrive at their opinion by ignoring the actual language of the Constitution and resorting to "analogous" rationalizations.

"Under a technical and literal reading of the language, the Third Amendment would only protect fee simple owners of houses. We reject such a formalistic construction for the same reasons that it has been rejected in analogous contexts."

Blatant judicial activism, explicit rejection of the language of the Constitution and hard core left wing pandering.

It's interesting alright.

81 posted on 01/26/2007 10:06:05 PM PST by Mojave
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ...
Seeing as a doctor considers himself such a renowned authority on guns, I'm certain that he will have no problem with us who still recall what it means to be Americans offer him unsolicited opinions on his next surgery.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

82 posted on 02/02/2007 5:40:14 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have two speeds: "graze" and "stampede".)
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To: Joe Brower
I'm certain that he will have no problem with us who still recall what it means to be Americans offer him unsolicited opinions on his next surgery.

I love people who tell me they have a right to their opinions regarding matters such as this.

I tell them as gently as possible that they have a right to an opinion as to how to perform brain surgery. That doesn't mean I'm going to let them open up my skull.

L

83 posted on 02/02/2007 5:45:21 AM PST by Lurker (Europeans killed 6 million Jews. As a reward they got 40 million Moslems. Karma's a bitch.)
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To: Lurker
Aw, you're just "insensitive", that's all. $;-)
84 posted on 02/02/2007 5:48:48 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have two speeds: "graze" and "stampede".)
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To: Lurker
I'm certain that he will have no problem with us who still recall what it means to be Americans offer him unsolicited opinions on his next surgery.

I love people who tell me they have a right to their opinions regarding matters such as this.

There's a little more to it than that, in particular just who is funding some of the *concerned physicians* trying to disarm America, and the unanswered question of just what they have planned for us if they should accomplish that steppingstone along the path they have planned.

85 posted on 02/02/2007 6:17:30 AM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: kiriath_jearim
As a longtime trauma surgeon at Harborview Medical Center, the main center for treatment of all kinds of wounds and injuries, I cannot recall a single patient who had been shot by the resident of a private home while attempting to burglarize it.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

You moron, maybe that has something to do with the fact that legitimate medical facilities report gunshot wounds to the police, and that for some odd reason burglars do not like having the police inquiring into their business.

86 posted on 02/02/2007 6:19:54 AM PST by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: Lurker
I love people who tell me they have a right to their opinions regarding matters such as this.

I tell them as gently as possible that they have a right to an opinion as to how to perform brain surgery. That doesn't mean I'm going to let them open up my skull.

You see! You have no appreciation or sympathy for those poor deluded people, nor for the physical condition that's caused such short-circuitry of their mental processes.

Clearly, such folks suffer from a lead deficiency. Dr. archy prescribes a 230-grain intracardiac injection. Repeat as needed, but one dose should prove an effective cure.

87 posted on 02/02/2007 6:21:12 AM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: kiriath_jearim

I love it when pointy-headed liberals prove their stupidity time and again.

Your tuition dollars at work.


88 posted on 02/02/2007 6:51:40 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Celebrate Monocacy!)
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To: HarleyLady27
The first myth is that the Second Amendment to the Constitution guarantees private citizens the right to own handguns

Sooo, The Bill of Rights (the first 10 amendments) are for, by & of the people.....all of them EXCEPT the 2nd? Unbelievable

89 posted on 02/02/2007 7:13:27 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: archy
Dr. archy prescribes a 230-grain intracardiac injection

Sadly I think it's going to come to that.

But there are lines in the sand. Mine are very clear and well defined.

Stay safe my friend.

L

90 posted on 02/02/2007 7:24:46 AM PST by Lurker (Europeans killed 6 million Jews. As a reward they got 40 million Moslems. Karma's a bitch.)
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To: FixitGuy

>I have a fear that even owning guns will not keep us free as long as the gun runners of the world keep selling hi-tech stuff to anyone with the money to buy it.<

Let them hold and maintain the hi-tech stuff. We can always take it from them when we need it.


91 posted on 02/02/2007 8:41:44 AM PST by B4Ranch (Press "1" for English, or Press "2" and you will be disconnected until you learn to speak English.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Anyone who doesn't believe people have a right to defend themselves should not be listened to or trusted.


92 posted on 02/02/2007 9:26:50 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Puppage
Sooo, The Bill of Rights (the first 10 amendments) are for, by & of the people.....all of them EXCEPT the 2nd? Unbelievable

I can't believe they still allow doctors to graduate without the fundamental ability to read and comprehend what they're reading...

93 posted on 02/02/2007 9:33:10 AM PST by Andonius_99 (There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
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To: paul51
Surprise, Surprise,,,,,,, NOT

From Wikepia:

William Randolph Hearst took over the paper in 1921. The Hearst Corporation owns the P-I to this day.

The daily Seattle Post-Intelligencer is one of two daily newspapers in Seattle, Washington, United States, the other being the Seattle Times. The PI is widely perceived to be more liberal than the Times.

A liberal rag and a liberal prof, two liars don't make for the truth.

94 posted on 02/02/2007 10:08:17 AM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

"As a longtime trauma surgeon at Harborview Medical Center, the main center for treatment of all kinds of wounds and injuries, I cannot recall a single patient who had been shot by the resident of a private home while attempting to burglarize it."

Or it could be that the author works in an upper class community well served by the police and private security.


95 posted on 02/02/2007 11:39:02 AM PST by ibbryn (this tag intentionally left blank)
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To: kiriath_jearim

"They attest to the ignorance of our citizens and our laziness in not even reading and learning the history of the Second Amendment to our Constitution."

Amazing that he cides us yet has his own facts soooo wrong.

He's claiming the National Guard, which was formed well after the Bill of Rights was written, is the militia the BOR refers to?

He's claiming citizens are NOT part of the militia, in spite of US TITLE 10?

He's claiming the 2nd is not an individual right, that it belongs only to the Feds and National Guard? Does the belive freedom of the press only belongs to state run news agencies?


96 posted on 02/02/2007 11:47:07 AM PST by ibbryn (this tag intentionally left blank)
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To: Joe Brower

The right of the people is individual, not collective.

This brainless twit has been sniffing way too much anesthesia.


97 posted on 02/02/2007 1:07:04 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: kiriath_jearim
This whole article is nothing but...


98 posted on 02/02/2007 1:12:26 PM PST by aomagrat (Let not your heart be troubled: Ye believe in God, believe ye also in gunboats.)
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To: SauronOfMordor; Joe Brower
The Dick Act of 1903 started a gradual process that, after the National Defense Act of 1933, resulted in the National Guard being a reserve component of the Regular Army.
Shhhhh...The good Doctor >spit<, Clifford M. Herman, is trying to start his very own myth and you're debunking it before it's even out of the gate.
99 posted on 02/02/2007 4:06:34 PM PST by philman_36
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To: Puppage
Sooo, The Bill of Rights (the first 10 amendments) are for, by & of the people.....all of them EXCEPT the 2nd?

The Tenth Amendment exists much more as a protection of state power than of individual freedom; it only protects people's rights insofar as it indicates that the people retain those powers which the federal government forbids the states from exercising but does not exercise itself.

Still, the point is well taken; unlike the Tenth Amendment, whose text clearly protects state powers, the Second Amendment refers to the right of the people.

100 posted on 02/02/2007 4:07:49 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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