Memo To Clifford M. Herman:
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Posted on 01/25/2007 8:27:58 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
The amendments first portion merely ~explains~ that: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
"-- Two main schools of thought have developed on the issue of whether the Second Amendment recognizes individual or collective rights. These schools of thought are referred to as the "states' rights," or "collective rights," school and the "individual rights" school. --"
Good job Paul, -- your quote brought out one of FR's 'collectivists' to admit once again his support for state majority rule prohibitions on guns.
It is not the fact that you own a gun or even that you have access to one that will matter if you are called upon to help defend our nation from it's enemies, either foreign or domestic. What will matter is your willingness to use it. Your ability to survive may depend upon your proficiency with a gun.
As far as the Hi-Tech stuff goes, fear not for you too can own some of that Hi-Tech tuff. When the shooting starts, just look around for the fella who no longer needs his and claim it as your own.
Semper Fi
An Old Man
Here's the straight poop [sarcasm] from FR's foremost collectivist:
~~~~ We, as a society, decide which rights we will protect ---
We can choose not to protect your right to do ----. [most anything]
If and when a majority of the people decide that we should, then we will. Given that we're a self-governing nation, there's nothing to stop the majority from deciding this. ---
Forgive me y'all, but I love reposting decrees like this one....
WOW........not surprising at all. That should be reposted on every banglist thread. Thanks for sharing.
Absent that, a firearm is just a hunk of steel and lead. We've forgotten how to use our "liberty teeth" for their intended purpose.
Time to get off our knees, square the jaw, and tell them in a clear voice, "No. I will not comply."
No more infringements. No more restrictions. No more BS "for the children". It's a RIGHT. We need to exercise it.
Semper Fi...
I your last post you wrote Time to get off our knees, square the jaw, and tell them in a clear voice, "No. I will not comply."
I believe we are sailing on the same course. I'll be sure to mention at the next Vigilance Committee meeting that we lay in a plentiful supply of fine manila hemp. Events are looking more and more like it will be needed.
Semper Fi
An Old Man
And any court which claims the 2A is a collective right (I must have missed some of those decisions) is using modern dogma to interpret clear prose in a nefarious way.
The Dick Act of 1903 started a gradual process that, after the National Defense Act of 1933, resulted in the National Guard being a reserve component of the Regular Army. Their pay and equiptment comes from the feds. They are on loan to the States unless the feds want them, but they are a federal force
That's called federalism, not collectivism. The way the U.S. Constitution was originally written.
But that makes centrists like yourself uncomfortable. You applaud the activist judges who use the 14th amendment to create a one-size-fits-all government. This way, five justices define your rights and apply that definition to all 50 states.
Do you like what they've done with the first amendment? They say it protects nude dancing. And that means all 50 states must allow it.
Then we have McCain-Feingold and eminent domain and abortion and sodomy and a whole bunch of rights that the states must protect.
Like the way your freedom of religion has been eroded over the years? Want to move to a state where you can at least put up a Nativity Scene in the public square? No state to move to, amigo. The laws apply to every state.
And you want these whack-jobs to define your gun rights and apply their definition to all 50 states. Way to go. Sarah Brady must be proud of you.
(Oh, the third amendment doesn't apply to the states, only the federal government. So if it isn't protected in the Florida State Constitution, get ready for company.)
How predictable. Maybe it is not in the state constitution because nobody had any problems understanding that it was not needed.
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/engblom.html is an interesting read.
Puh-leeze. The only federal court case to declare an individual right (Emerson) took place in 2001. There's your modern dogma.
Har! This pathetic old clown, Clifford M. Herman, has no idea why the Second Amendment is in the Bill of Rights.
Burglars.... LMAO!
Hey, Cliff.... The Second Amendment is there so people like ME can defend ourselves against scumbags like YOU who would help the Democrat Party turn America into a tyrannical, oppressive, fascist, Euro-style, secular-socialist welfare state.
Drop dead, Cliff. And keep off my property.
Then where are these myriad cases you cite?
Yes, the 2nd Circuit agreed with the district court (rather matter-of-factly) that the 3rd amendment was incorporated. The U.S. Supreme Court, however, has not decided on 3rd amendment incorporation.
So, unless you live in the area served by the 2nd Circuit (you don't), then you're SOL.
I'm not taking 2 hours of my time to cite 30 cases just to have you blow them away with, "They're wrong".
Google up "circuit court collective right".
Memo To Clifford M. Herman:
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That's because the vast majority of burglars, and other criminals, who were driven off by use of arms didn't need your services as a trauma surgeon; they ran like hell before they could get shot!
Most of the defensive gun uses in the US do not involve gunfire. The bad guy leaves when a gun appears. (After all, he's not there to get into a gun fight; he's there to steal stuff, sell it, and use the money for drugs. You can't get high if you're dead.) Most people will not report a non-shooting to the police, so the good doctor doesn't hear about them.
They totally seem to not comprehend this part of the amendment. I wish I could go back in time and slap them silly for not working The 2nd in a more absolute way. Yet, regardless of wordage the liberals of today have a way of not seeing what's in the Constitution, and seeing what's not in it, and making decisions accordingly.
Dr. Herman practices General Surgery in Seattle, Washington. Dr. Clifford Herman, a male, graduated from the University Vt College Med with a MD and has been in the profession for 48 years.
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