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1 posted on 01/25/2007 5:14:59 AM PST by NapkinUser
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She should have to pay money for a life deprived. V's wife.


2 posted on 01/25/2007 5:16:19 AM PST by ventana
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Way to piss me off first thing when I get to work in the morning!
Isn't what she did one of the ten commandments?
"You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor."


4 posted on 01/25/2007 5:19:13 AM PST by Havok (I like meat, guns, and comic books. Am I a bad conservative?)
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Not to pick nits, but if you start to hold eyewitness liable for mistaken testimony, it will be even harder to find eyewitnesses to anything. People will just move along, and not talk to the police.

Malicious testimony is one thing. If somebody can be proven to have given false testimony maliciously, have at them. But mistaken testimony offered in good faith should not make one liable for anything. It is the court's and the jury's job to make the determination.


5 posted on 01/25/2007 5:21:39 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Have you ever noticed that whatever the problem, the government's solution is always "more taxes"?)
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Lost in the discussion is the FACT that the perp, the GUILTY perp, is and has been walking around freely.


Unless of course he was arrested on other charges, or was capped by someone for dissing them.


Now ... what lessons does this story hold for the Duke stripper case????


7 posted on 01/25/2007 5:22:21 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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Eyewitness testimony is some of the most unreliable there is, especially if the witness only saw for a brief moment, or while under stress.

There are always gaps in what you perceive and our brains automatically fill in the gaps, though not necessarily with reality.

When people saw the first "Friday the 13th" many swore they saw a slashing in one scene, however the scene cut away before the knife touched.


8 posted on 01/25/2007 5:23:21 AM PST by ko_kyi
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"I would truly rather have a guilty person go free than have an innocent person serve time in jail."

I agree

9 posted on 01/25/2007 5:24:46 AM PST by sneakers
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Knowing little of the whole story, I must ask in general: What is a victim truly believes that the suspect she chose (from photos or lineup) IS the criminal? Is that bearing false witness? Suppose the guy chosen looks almost identical to another? That has happened before.


12 posted on 01/25/2007 5:27:08 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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I think the real perp is the one who owes him something.

I would also be willing to bet the police or DA misconduct had more to do with the faulty ID than the victims memory.
13 posted on 01/25/2007 5:30:19 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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Shouldn't the states reimburse him for the lost years? After all he is Innocent of the crime.
There are so many stories of Innocent men in jail because of women accusing him of rape, when no rape was committed. This is not to say that rape does not happen.. but... it seems that far too many women scream rape to get even with the guy. How about stronger law for the accuser's false testimony?
Once again,... I'm not saying rape does not occur but it does seem that accusation of the act is weighted against the men.
14 posted on 01/25/2007 5:30:19 AM PST by Strutt9
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How did he get 21 years? I thought the maximum was 15, and if it is the first offense they usually go half on that. Damn, he must have had one doozy of a lawyer.


15 posted on 01/25/2007 5:31:29 AM PST by Screamname (Guinness world records reports that the record for youngest living person is constantly being broken)
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More importantly .. does this woman owe anything to Pete Williams?
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No! She has to suffer again for having mis-identified her rapist.

Until there is proof that she maliciously and falsely accused Mr. Williams - she is still the victim of an unsolved crime.


20 posted on 01/25/2007 5:45:16 AM PST by sodpoodle (Official Thread Nanny)
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I agree with you that an innocent man who spends 21 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit is owed SOME kind of compensation.

But the woman who made the false identification cannot be tarred and feathered UNLESS it can be proven that she made the identification in bad faith, if her ID of the accused was malicious or intended to protect someone else (the real perp).

Unfortunately, the witness who gave false testimony can cry her eyes out and claim that she 'thought she had the right person' and that she 'didn't MEAN to cause Mr. Williams such hardship' and that would go a long way to innoculate her from any accusation of deliberately misidentifying the party who raped her.

And THAT allows the State of Georgia to say that they 'prosecuted Mr. Williams in good faith' based on the testimony of the victim, and you can see where that leads, everybody saying 'golllleeeee, WE didn't KNOW that Mr. Williams was INNOCENT, we thought he was GUILTY' (as they wash their hands of the whole matter).

Ultimately the State of Georgia has to be held accountable for this, and Mr. Williams is owed compensation. I think that $100,000 for every year he spent in prison would be fair and reasonable. And 2.1 million dollars is quite frankly chicken feed in a time of multi-billion dollar budgets.

My .02 cents.


27 posted on 01/25/2007 6:08:37 AM PST by mkjessup
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So ... how did he get convicted? On the eye-witness testimony of the victim, that's how.

I'm quite familiar with the process... I was found guilty for a crime I didn't commit on the basis of an eye-witness alone.

I don't think about it much until one of these stories pops up. Or if I need a background check done to work with kids. Or if I need to renew a professional license. Being found guilty for a crime you didn't commit tends to change your perspective and opinion in various ways.

35 posted on 01/25/2007 6:23:53 AM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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Uh... yeah, the title is just not right.


36 posted on 01/25/2007 6:24:47 AM PST by rintense (Just say no to McCain in 2008!)
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That title leaves lots of potential!

LOL!!


40 posted on 01/25/2007 6:25:30 AM PST by KoRn
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I would truly rather have a guilty person go free than have an innocent person serve time in jail.

I think they're both equally bad.

42 posted on 01/25/2007 6:32:31 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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Boortz is full of crap on this one. Essentially, he's equating the rape victim in this case, with Mike Nifong.

It really is too bad -- awful, in fact -- that this guy spent all that time in prison. But it is not the victim's fault.

54 posted on 01/25/2007 6:51:57 AM PST by r9etb
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If she fingered him wasn't the whole thing consensual?


67 posted on 01/25/2007 7:22:59 AM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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It's been known for a long, long time in legal circles that eyewitness testimony is among the most unreliable forms of evidence. But the public believes otherwise and prosecutors and police use that to their advantage.


82 posted on 01/25/2007 11:02:18 AM PST by colorado tanker
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If it's a deliberately false accusation, the woman should spend the rest of her life in prison.
If it's a legitimate mistake, I can't see how or why she should be prosecuted.
In any event, it's radical man-hating femnazis who make the situation the way it is.


104 posted on 01/29/2007 4:03:11 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Liberalism - Yuck!)
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