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Funny, no estimate of the "actual" inflation rate was made in this editorial, and no rehash of the "official" rate was mentioned, either.
1 posted on 01/24/2007 2:43:55 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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PING!


2 posted on 01/24/2007 2:44:43 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (“Don’t overestimate the decency of the human race.” —H. L. Mencken)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

"Last week, I interviewed Lou Dobbs of CNN"

Now there's a creditable source! NOT!


3 posted on 01/24/2007 2:49:11 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

CPI is not an accurate indication of inflation because it reflects retail or consumer goods. Many things determine the actual risk of inflation such as government spending, taxation, foriegn balance of payments, level of investment, aggregate demand, etc....and Lou Dobbs IS NOT an economist and a fairly poor journalist (if that's what you call him)


4 posted on 01/24/2007 2:57:45 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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"The borrowing creates massive liquidity and a buying boom in such items as real estate, stocks, commodities, and consumer items. All these items rise in a dangerous price bubble."

There is a problem with this statement. A buying boom certainly occurred (past tense) in real estate, but that buying boom was very uneven, geographically. There has been something of a boom in commodities, but I don't believe it was purely or even largely speculative. Stocks, while turning in the best showing of the decade, are still only modestly ahead of highs early in the decade, looking at the Dow. Consumer items have generally deflated, demand aside, due to offshore sourcing.

It wouldn't take much for a deflationary scenario to re-emerge. Standing pat on interest rates makes sense right now, from what I can see, even though a case can be made that the stimulus is still excessive.


5 posted on 01/24/2007 2:57:47 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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"Government figures have been “doctored” for many years, under Presidents Kennedy, Johnson, and Carter. The former President George H.W. Bush began efforts to lower the reported CPI systematically. Clinton set the stage for a new and lower inflation CPI."

This "under-reporting" is taking longer to catch up with us than the Illuminati are taking to implement their world government.

Actually, there are indications that inflation is overstated due to ignoring the effect of productivity improvements over time. Maybe it all evens out!


6 posted on 01/24/2007 3:00:23 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Boycott all Leftist Media, ignore them and they will go away...)
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[laughing too hard to respond]


8 posted on 01/24/2007 3:04:43 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Personally, I don't think the govt knows either.......

Someone just made up number and everyone nodded yes.


9 posted on 01/24/2007 3:05:15 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the Truth here Folks.)
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I checked with my spouse. She says whoever says there is little inflation does not grocery shop. For those of you who don't shop for groceries, perhaps you have noted the increased prices on the restaurant menus you have seen.

PS And it ain't an improved quality fakeroo.

10 posted on 01/24/2007 3:10:41 PM PST by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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He quotes that our government thinks that, “rising oil prices are not considered inflationary, but falling oil prices are somehow deflationary.”

Rising prices do not cause inflation.

11 posted on 01/24/2007 3:49:04 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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Clinton set the stage for a new and lower inflation CPI.

Crash-Protection team, anyone?

I remember a couple of times the bond market moved with breathtaking heft during the Clinton years, the kind of heft that only large sovereign nations can muster.

And it was no mistake that some of the Wall Street trading firms were handing out rock star bonuses in its wake

12 posted on 01/24/2007 3:56:19 PM PST by IncPen (When Al Gore Finished the Internet, he invented Global Warming)
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You know that if laid all the economist in the world end to end you still couldn't reach a conclusion.

Seriously this should be no surprise to anyone. Even the slug at the 7-11 doesn't believe the Gvnmt numbers on inflation. A small loaf of bread here is $2.50 and it's crap. Inflation doesn't exist unless you are buying a house, paying for college, feeding a family or buying a new car.

15 posted on 01/24/2007 4:18:18 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (So many geeks, so few circuses.)
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Bump for later reading


16 posted on 01/24/2007 4:25:49 PM PST by Kevmo (Darn, if only I had signed up 4 days earlier, I'd have a 3-digit Freeper #)
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The FedGov has a very strong incentive to under-report the CPI

Social Security, Medicare, retiree payment etc. CPI goes up, payments go up. Carter really cooked the books as inflation ran away with the house.

BilleBob Clinton cooked the books to make the deficit look smaller. Anyone on a fixed income is toast.
19 posted on 01/24/2007 4:53:00 PM PST by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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Sadly, the one result of a false government inflation figure is that our interest rates are set unrealistically low.

There is another critical result, and IMO this is why inflation is underreported.

Any sane person knows the Social Security Trust Fund is a farce, and the day of reckoning for SS is around 2017, not 2042 or whenever the financial alchemists (turning debt into gold) at the SS Administration say it will run out.

So what is a way to deal with a thirty-percent projected shortfall that does not involved tar and feathers for politicians? Why, under-report inflation by a percent or so year after year so that COLAs don't keep up with the actual rate of inflation.

That has the additional benefit of negative compunding - each percent underreported builds upon previous years of underreporting. So that after 20-25 years, the shortfall is cured by boiling the frog slowly.

Don't believe me? Check out the concept of substitution. The government says if steak gets too expensive and you buy hamburger instead, well, that's not inflation, because you're still buying beef.

Of course, that "logic" can claim it's not inflationary if all you can afford to buy is beef Alpo.

22 posted on 01/24/2007 5:43:10 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter - I still like ya, but please read the 10th and get back to me regarding Congr pardons)
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I don't know what the truth is, and pointing out that Lou Dobbs is not an economist, but the same can't be said about Paul Volcker, Alan Greenspan or Gerald Corrigan. Further enhancing an air of conspiracy was the move to stop reporting the m3 money supply. According to Walter Williams inflation is a result of the money supply and the M3 report used to report that.

I am afraid my son and the other children in the family will be sent the bill for today's consumption.

23 posted on 01/24/2007 5:55:52 PM PST by libill (Socialism is communism with a happy face.)
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This is awesome. The government is lying. Its been lying since 1960 under Kennedy. This lie has been part of everyone's Economics text books with the clear reasoning why some prices are excluded from CPI, but this is just cynical manipulation by the government for the last 50 years.

But, this isn't enough data for financial experts and economists to discount any distortion this might create. Given that all of these facts and calculations are a matter of public record. And have been for decades.

The point of this article is that the Economy couldn't possibly be booming like it is, its just a lie and its ALL BUSH's FAULT!

And, its cold outside and perhaps the Government is lying about the Temperature so that people are less concerned about Global warming.

26 posted on 01/25/2007 1:38:51 AM PST by dalight
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27 posted on 02/06/2007 8:11:37 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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