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Unfazed by Better Known Opponents, Hunter Makes Candidacy Official Thursday [Duncan Hunter Alert!]
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| 1/23/07
| Rachel Kapochunas
Posted on 01/24/2007 8:57:53 AM PST by Antoninus
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To: Antoninus; proudpapa; Registered
I did not notice the resemblance between the two before it was mentioned. And I live in the 22nd district in Tx, Delay's old district.
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posted on
01/24/2007 11:31:05 AM PST
by
Hydroshock
( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
To: GraceCoolidge
As much as I hate to do it, I think I too would vote third party before voting for Giuliani. I've had to hold my nose on votes before, but if Giuiliani does not oppose even partial birth abortion, then I can't vote for him. Morally I can't justify voting for someone who would support partial birth abortion.
Me too. But you don't have to be a single-issue voter not to vote for Rudy. I'm a multi-issue non-Giuliani supporter. To wit:
1.) He's pro-abortion.
2.) He's pro-gun control.
3.) He's pro-gay-marriage/pro-hate-crimes laws.
4.) He's pro-illegal immigration.
That about does it for me.
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posted on
01/24/2007 11:32:06 AM PST
by
Antoninus
( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
To: Antoninus
What was the "single issue" that did in George H. W. Bush in 1992? "It's the economy, stupid."
To: Ms. AntiFeminazi
Maybe the real problem is that NOBODY knows what Duncan Hunter looks like. Gee, I wonder how that could be?
So if Hunter acquires a national profile and begins rising in the polls, you'll have no beef with him. Is that what you're saying? You're only problem is that no one knows who he is yet?
If public recognition is the only factor here, then by all means, let's just nominate Paris Hilton and be done with it!
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posted on
01/24/2007 11:34:50 AM PST
by
Antoninus
( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
To: Ms. AntiFeminazi
"It's the economy, stupid."
According to you and Jimmy Carvile. So you're saying that the "no new taxes" thing had nothing to do with it, eh?
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posted on
01/24/2007 11:36:17 AM PST
by
Antoninus
( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
To: Antoninus; Registered
In Registered's defense, he's a long-time Freeper with a pedigree (If I may use that word??). Lots of FReepers (most too smart by half) have gotten on the Rudy McRomney bandwagon because they've bought into the fear factor--that the only way to defeat Hillary is to run a "moderate" Republican. Many of them are slowly coming to the realization that this attitude is not only wrong, but likely to result in an electoral disaster for the GOP.
I put Registered in that camp. He's a smart guy. I think he'll come around before too long.
First, if you're going to tell the world who he is supporting, you should at least ping him.
Second, Registered has never said anything about supporting either Rudy or Mitt. He has said that he doesn't think conservatives should be attacking their own. There is no good that can come from that. Conservatives should be giving everyone reasons why we should vote for their guy, not tearing every potential nominee down on behalf of the Democrats.
Registered's entitled to his opinion and he is a conservative. If Duncan Hunter wants to make a better impression with conservatives, he should distance from Tom Delay. There's nothing wrong with pointing out something obvious and easy enough to fix to help a candidate not be aligned with someone like Delay. If Duncan Hunter doesn't really care about Registered's vote, he can ignore the advice, but I guarantee you calling someone who is very conservative a Democrat operative on FR will not win friends on your side.
To: Antoninus
If Hunter is the nominee, he'll get my vote. National recognition is REQUIRED to win a majority vote. That's very basic I think?
As for having no beef with him, I don't at this stage simply because I don't know enough about him. Time will tell if he can get his message out someone like me.
So far, all I know about Duncan Hunter is that he resembles Tom Delay. If I have the TV on mute and am simply looking at a pic, guess what I'll see? Someone making me extremely uncomfortable because of a scandal that helped to bring down the GOP. I guess we should all just keep our mouths shut about such simple things as image and hair dye. We wouldn't want to hurt any feelings.
No new taxes is not an economy issue? Hrm, that's news to me.
To: Ms. AntiFeminazi; Registered
First, if you're going to tell the world who he is supporting, you should at least ping him.
Uh, I did.
Conservatives should be giving everyone reasons why we should vote for their guy, not tearing every potential nominee down on behalf of the Democrats.
The fact is that Rudy McRomney all have tremendous down-sides. If we don't hash this stuff out now, it will certainly come back to bite us if (God forbid!) any of those three get the nomination. I'm sorry that there's so little material out there to bash Hunter with at this point. I'm sure if some does arrive, all this demanded mannerliness will be out the window.
Registered's entitled to his opinion and he is a conservative. If Duncan Hunter wants to make a better impression with conservatives, he should distance from Tom Delay.
Ah, so is that the crux of what you guys are getting at--trying to draw an actually connection between Hunter and Delay? Not just physical resemblance?
Well, if you've got the goods, do tell! Otherwise, knock it off.
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posted on
01/24/2007 11:51:03 AM PST
by
Antoninus
( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
To: Ms. AntiFeminazi
National recognition is REQUIRED to win a majority vote. That's very basic I think?
Uh, I think whoever wins the Republican nomination will have national recognition. That's a given.
So far, all I know about Duncan Hunter is that he resembles Tom Delay.
You'd be well served to find out more about him, then. Have a look at his PAC's website:
Peace Through Strength PAC
No new taxes is not an economy issue? Hrm, that's news to me.
No, it's not. The "Read my lips" thing was a character issue and a matter of trust. Many people perceived that Bush simply lied to them.
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posted on
01/24/2007 11:54:26 AM PST
by
Antoninus
( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
To: Antoninus
You're reading way too much into a post that is simply stating the obvious. First impressions matter.
Why are you making enemies of someone who has absolutely no hostility towards your guy?
To: Ms. AntiFeminazi
You're reading way too much into a post that is simply stating the obvious. First impressions matter.
Maybe in looking for a spouse. But the number of people who will reject Hunter because he may or may not bear a passing resemblance to Tom Delay can probably be measured in the dozens.
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posted on
01/24/2007 11:57:53 AM PST
by
Antoninus
( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
To: Antoninus
I will do my research as I have time. Of the top 10 list of possible nominees that was posted a few months ago, I've actually met or know at least 4 of them. I have a life and a job and will get around to the rest as my life allows. For now, I have to rely on whatever tidbits I can grab. First impressions do matter. Not everyone researches the candidates the way most Freepers do.
And yes, I think Duncan Hunter's pic resembles Tom Delay's pic.
To: Ms. AntiFeminazi; Antoninus; Registered
For the record I never said that Reg was a dem operative.
However I see so many stupid comments and posts at freerepublic I can't help wonder who is behind some of them. (Soros, Hillary?)
There are way to many stories about Mitt, who has a good chance of winning Utah but not his home state of Massachusetts.
There are way to many stories posted about Rudy, even though he is unacceptable for many conservatives.
And don't get me started on McCain.
Others like Gingrich, and Hagel are DOA.
Brownback, Paul, Tancredo aren't bad but they're going no where fast.
Hunter has a winning track record. He's a true conservative with a strong military record.
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posted on
01/24/2007 12:03:22 PM PST
by
proudpapa
(Forget Rudy McRomney it's Duncan Hunter in '08!)
To: proudpapa
The Dem operative comment was made in a reply to you, not from you.
What bugs me most is people totally trashing every candidate the GOP puts up except for their candidate.
Like I said, I have no issue with Hunter so far. I don't know enough about him to have any issues, and hopefully the more I learn, I'll still have no issues with him.
I don't think pointing out an obvious resemblance to someone radioactive to the GOP is trashing Hunter, especially when it is something EASILY fixed. I assumed that was Registered's point, but he'll have to speak for himself. I simply saw it as stating the obvious.
To: All
For those without TVs. Duncan Hunter over the years has been on "Meet the Press" and other National programs.
Countless times on C-SPAN especially as Chariman of the Armed Services Comm. in hearings.
He is known my those who follow world affairs, Military, border issues, etc.
Also have seen for several days, trying to tie together in various forms Hunter & DeLay.
One of the other candidate's insecure FReepers went balistic attacking DeLay on a Hunter thread.
If the others supporting other candidates are that insecure
that they just can't speak about their candidate and instead use 6th grade techniques and childish spams to attack Hunter, it tells me enough that you are more interested in dividing the Republican party than seeing The party is in office in 08
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posted on
01/24/2007 12:11:32 PM PST
by
SoCalPol
(We Need A Border Fence Now)
To: freedomfiter2; MAF
What percent of the voters do you think could pick DeLay out of a lineup?
A better question might be,"would someone confuse the two in a line-up based on their similar features"?
Now, I know to some here my observation might be a bit superficial. Yes issues matter most, and what the candidate's background is and what sort of experience he brings to a possible nomination. The reason I pointed out the resemblance between Delay and Hunter is that (unfortunately) appearance makes a much larger impact than is given credit here on FR. Sure, I am glad Hunter has fantastic conservative credentials, that's a good thing. However, the package that is carrying those credentials might turn-off voters on first impression. That's sorta my point.
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posted on
01/24/2007 12:16:31 PM PST
by
Registered
(Politics is the art of the possible)
To: proudpapa
Hunter has a winning track record. He's a true conservative with a strong military record.
I think your analysis of the situation is spot on. I think he'd be a superb candidate and very difficult to beat in the general election.
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posted on
01/24/2007 12:21:24 PM PST
by
Antoninus
( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
To: South40; All
"Duncan Hunter is the best conservative candidate out there. He just lacks national name recognition."
Rush brought up his name as one of the candidates not being mentioned much. It's good he's starting his run now.
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posted on
01/24/2007 12:21:35 PM PST
by
wolfcreek
(Please Lord, May I be, one who sees what's in front of me.)
To: Antoninus
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posted on
01/24/2007 12:22:13 PM PST
by
LC HOGHEAD
("We are going to take things away from you for the common good" Hillary Clinton,Democrat)
To: NapkinUser
You must post that more often!
I love it!
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