Imprisoned agent's wife: President is a hypocrite

WorldNetDaily ^ | January 24, 2007 | Jerome R. Corsi

[L98Fiero]

If a cop had even reportedly shot a citizen in this manner, this thread would be 1000 posts long calling for the cops heads on a platter or worse.

Hypocrites abound.

[wtc911]

It is lawful, even in NYS, for even a citizen to shoot a fleeing felon.

[P-Marlowe]

I have lost a lot of respect for Bush and his administration over this prosecution. In the last two years Bush has shown almost no leadership qualities. The quality of a leader is in his ability to garner followers. At 22% approval rating it is clear that Bush does not have what it takes to lead. He may be governing ok, but he is not leading anyone.

By allowing this travesty of justice to occur he has lost his base. It is a shame because I had high hopes for this presidency. Bush may be a decent man, but at this point he is wholly ineffective as a leader. If he does not begin to effectively lead this country, then the odds of a Republican being elected in 2008 are nill.

[CindyDawg]

She needs to follow the Houston story about a 911 call and a man being shot in his home that they though could have been armed. Which is it? Do we give LE the right to make judgment calls and fire them if they can't do so or do we start locking them all up? I don't understand why I don't see BP uniting like the police departments do. They should be saying "hey ,yall are tieing our hands" and slow the bridges down so bad that no one gets across until this is resolved (IMOOC)

[tearlenb]

Considering the agents tried to cover it up, she should keep her mouth shut and pray for a pardon. These agents picked up their shells, and never reported the incident. Granted, the sentence was harsh, but insulting the president will get this woman nothing.

[jmc813]

Much like shooting an unarmed, fleeing suspect in the back is against the law.

Please link me to evidence that the smuggler was unarmed.

[L98Fiero]

"By allowing this travesty of justice to occur he has lost his base."

If Bush's "base" is made up of folks who think it's good to shoot a fleeing man in the back then lie and do away with evidence to cover it up, his base is everything DU says and worse.

[jmc813]

Compean and Ramos testified the smuggler was unarmed

Source?

[L98Fiero]

"Please link me to evidence that the smuggler was unarmed."

That'd be nice wouldn't it? Why don't you link me to evidence that he WAS armed?

[P-Marlowe]

Please don't end a sentence with a preposition

"Is" is not a preposition. It is a verb.

[LanPB01]

Where did you find the information regarding the testimony of the convicted agents and the agents that arrived later?

[windcliff]

ping

[CindyDawg]

If you were (maybe you are) a BP agent, that chases drug smugglers, wouldn't it be reasonable to believe they might be armed?

[ContemptofCourt]

As I stated in another thread, it is mindboggling that the trial testimony has not been posted on the web. So many people are demanding "justice" for these agents, yet noone knows the "facts" of the case, as per the trial testimony, because noone has said "I was there and this is what he testified." If the testimony is so favorable to the BP agents' defense, then why has it not been posted for all to see by their attorneys?

[DreamsofPolycarp]

".....knowing Border Patrol Agents can be sent to jail for defending themselves and the border. "

Is there a contest for kooky posts going on here at FR that I don't know anything about?

Again, that is NOT THE ISSUE! The issue is that:
1) They failed to report the incident
2) The ACTIVELY OBSTRUCTED the investigation
3) They lied about the incident ocurring in the first place

If they had walked into their superior's office and said: "Sarge, we were confronted by an armed person who threatened us and then fled on foot, leaving a van behind with 750 lbs of dope. We fired when he menaced us, and we think we may have shot him in the a_s." If they had done that, NOTHING aside from maybe some minor investigation re: whether or not who fired first.

As it was, they attempted to defraud the courts and the investigative process. Although they don't deserve 10 years in prison imo, they are not the innocent and true blue defenders of God and our sovereign nation that the apoplectics here keep bellowing about. There is NO reason for spinning this as some kind of treasonous abandonment of border patrol officers if you are not alread carrying a huge anti hispanic sentiment on your back to begin with.

Oh, and by the way, I think it was also despicable to grant amnesty and bring a drug dealer back across the border to testify in the trial. That said, it doesn't excuse these two.

[xzins]

I was amazed that the president proposed his health care tax increase last night.

And these border agents in jail is a travesty.

And his unwillingness to defend his administration's position in Iraq except on an occasional basis.

There was plenty of ammo to defend WMDs, terrorist within Iraq, Iranian attacks on the US, Good News from our Troops, etc., etc.,

But, not once did any of that get put out in the public domain and vigorously defended.

Did he just give up???

[Theophilus]

imo that should be enough reason to shoot.

...and not just your opinion, it is an ancient concept of our common law, that is, until the Super Senate (aka the Supreme Court) found the use of deadly force is a "seizure" and that felons are protected from such by the 4th amendment.

Fleeing Felon Rule

[CindyDawg]

I have to wonder why they covered though? Did they think they had done something wrong or panicked because of the PC consequences that were sure to follow. If they were covering a crime, I think they could have done a much better job.
If these guys were Rambos and didn't follow P/P, fine. Fire them. To send them to prison on the word of the man they were trying to arrest to begin with though? What does this say to the other agents?

[DreamsofPolycarp]

He was shot in the ....uh...."gluteus maximus" and has the wounds to prove it. The agents say he was armed and he denies it.

I would be inclined to believe the agents and support them were it not for their despicable behavior in attempting to cover up the incident and lying about until they were caught.

[LYSandra]

I listened to agent on Fox say there was more to story like the 2 guys shot the guy in the back (guy had no gun) hid evidence and then lied about the shooting and evidence so might be hard to pardon when there are these facts to consider no?