Imprisoned agent's wife: President is a hypocrite

WorldNetDaily ^ | January 24, 2007 | Jerome R. Corsi

[1rudeboy]

This was not a drug-smuggling trial. This was an excessive-use-of-force trial. Evidence of the drugs found in the van would be prejudicial because it would make the jury sympathetic to the defendants--"yeah, maybe they did use excessive force but the perp deserved it."

I will not respond to any comments that the perp deserved it, as the perp was not on trial here.

[TBP]

Clearly the other jurors tried to intimidate them inot voting guilty. If I were their attorney, I'd bring these guys into court on the appeal.

The conviction is questionable. But keep relying on it as "proof" of the evil of keeping out hte invaders.

[LanPB01]

If I remember correctly, jurors are not told the potential length of sentences while deliberating for the same reason they are not told of prior criminal acts by defendants. It might prejudice them.

[1rudeboy]

. . . (btw...intimidation is not violence...maybe that's why your own citation mentions both)

I am reminded of Rep. Rogan's comment during the House Impeachment Hearings:

"If I was still a judge and you made that argument before me, I'd be on the phone to the State Bar Association inquiring about the status of your law license."

In any case, counselor [hoot], intimidation is the threat of violence, which the court sees as "constructive" violence. I'm not going to explain that word to you, so get your own law dictionary.

[Chena]

I understand the emotions behind this debate. I really do. Let me ask you this. How would you feel about this case if Davila had turned out to be a Mexican-American citizen who was only fleeing because he didn't have a driver's license and didn't want to get busted that night? The reason I ask is because these agents did not know anything about the person they were chasing.

[Leatherneck_MT]

No I'm not forgetting, I'm waiting to see for myself what the transcripts say.

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

"the American people should know that President Bush doesn't mean a word he says."

As far as the southern border is concerned, how can you argue with this statement? Whatever the merits of the agent's case, it is plain that Bush will only act when forced into it. And this only puts more pressure on an underfunded and understaffed BP.

When the President calls law abiding citizens Vigilantes, what message does that send to the officers on the border?

[PRND21]

Clearly the other jurors tried to intimidate them inot voting guilty.

The only thing clear here is your inability to look at this case unemotionally.

[AmeriBrit]

I'm a lifetime member of the NRA, have developed a steady hand and rarely miss what I'm aiming at, but it appears I still have a lot to learn as I can't quite figure out how to shoot someone in the left buttock when they've turned and are taking aim facing me.

You also keep ignoring the fact there was another agent on the scene, and that they destroyed the evidence then lied about the incident. Would you also defend a rogue police officer under the same circumstances? I doubt it.

[Leatherneck_MT]

I guess you're right.. silly me, the only people that deserve amnesty are those who are here illegally.

Forget our BP agents who put their lives on the line daily to protect our borders.

Forget our Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines overseas who do far worse.

The only people that deserve amnesty are the innocent (but illegal) aliens in this country who refuse to respect our laws and our borders.

[Chena]

Thank you for pointing that out.

[1rudeboy]

When the President calls law abiding citizens Vigilantes, what message does that send to the officers on the border?

I think most of us understand your point, but in this case the message to the officers was "Hey, I want to be one too."

[1rudeboy]

Wow. Wipe your chin.

[SuziQ]

We already know that Libby's indictment was politically motivated; it's likely the jury will see that, too. If Libby is convicted, he'll have the chance to appeal.

Libby, on the other hand, didn't shoot an unarmed man, as these officers were accused of doing. A jury having seen the evidence, convicted them of it, and the officers have every right to appeal. I haven't read anything that says their arrest or conviction was politically motivated. Those who oppose illegal immigration have jumped on the case to beat up the President with it. That's the only politics I've seen about it.

[Leatherneck_MT]

is that the best you can do?

[TBP]

I can't quite figure out how to shoot someone in the left buttock when they've turned and are taking aim facing me.

He was NOT shot in the buttocks. He was shot in the side, according to the doctor. Clearly, you hvaen't been reading the thread. Every bit of evidence that the enemies of Agents Ramos and Compean have claimed is at least disputed.

[TBP]

is that the best you can do?

Looks that way.

[1rudeboy]

What do you want, a virtual body-sock?

[1rudeboy]

[hugs]

[spectre]

"How would you feel about this case if Davila had turned out to be a Mexican-American citizen who was only fleeing because he didn't have a driver's license and didn't want to get busted that night? The reason I ask is because these agents did not know anything about the person they were chasing."

Bad question. Anyone who runs from the Border Patrol is automatically assumed to be guilty of "something"..don't cha think?

If the Mexican American who didn't have his drivers license was smuggling drugs, I'd feel the same way..

But the fact remains, they did stop a Drug Dealer from entering our country that day..and for that alone, they should be commended...not jailed.

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