Posted on 01/24/2007 5:51:23 AM PST by NapkinUser
sorry...but I'm not buying into your delusion. Get over him.
Now is the time for the country to unite, in spite of Bush. The sovereignty and security of the nation I love and cherish, is at stake.
Apparently, my point is lost on you. Questioning my motives is a sure sign you've lost the argument, but keep going . . . I'm here all evening.
And the jury who convicted the agents, you forget.
Personally, I think the reason these guys tried to coverup what they had done is because they knew that what they had just done was illegal. That is the only reason I can think of as to why they would have "panicked" in the first place. From what I have learned, B.P. agents have cause to fire their weapons often throughout the year, and some of those situations have ended with the suspect being killed. And yet none of those B.P. agents faced charges nor reprimands, etc., because they followed the law and the procedures in place for reporting such events.
You said, "How hard would it have been for t hem to say he had a gun in his pants and turned to fire? Who would have known the difference?" Yes, I suppose if they could have come up with a better lie. However, is that what we want our law enforcement officers to do? Become good liars?
These two agents had a reason for getting rid of the evidence. That fact alone should speak volumes.
Furthermore, instead of issuing a warrant for the Drug Dealers arrest, what does Sutton do? He seeks out the criminal and offers him immunity and free medical care here in the US to testify against two of our OWN law enforcement officers. It's a total lack of integrity on Suttons part.
Isn't this the way they do things in Mexico? Drug Dealers "rule" and most of the cops are on the "take"?
Are we going down that same path?
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That is the account offered by Sutton. It has been disputed.
no weapon was found (presumably no one bothered to look)
Aldrete-Davila fled to Mexican territory and got in a van that drove off, not to return to US soil for a month. How exactly do you think they would find a weapon?
no one (Compean and Ramos included) even bothered to take cover before, during, or after the shooting.
Take cover in an open area? LOL. Keep 'em comin'!
Do you not know the difference between giving advice and stating facts? It seems not. What then would give me reason to believe that you are capable of understanding a penal code?
agreed!! Also 'rude...' ignores the three jurors who stated they caved to pressure because they were told a hung jury was not an option! see worldnetdaily for info
Got it. Everything's disputed, except the accounts of Ramos and Compean themselves, which are unimpeachable.
Who said they were lied to and deceived. But don't let that little inconveninet fact get in your way.
"See World Net Daily for info." is part of your problem, but I digress. Tell me, is this the first time you've heard a juror complain to the press after a trial?
Sutton should be impeached and this case should be a priority for all Americans until Bush grants a full pardon to Ramos and Compean.
After what happened to the Pendleton 8 for doing their job and given the Presidnet's de facto amnesty position on illegal immigration, I can see why tehy might well panic after doign exactly what they're supposed to do.
The applicable statute, Penal Law § 35.30(4)(b), reads as follows:
A private person acting on his own account may use physical force, other than deadly physical force, upon another person when and to the extent that he reasonably believes such to be necessary to effect an arrest or to prevent the escape from custody of a person whom he reasonably believes to have committed an offense and who in fact has committed such offense; and he may use deadly physical force for such purpose when he reasonably believes such to be necessary to:
* * * * * * (b) Effect the arrest of a person who has committed murder, manslaughter in the first degree, robbery, forcible rape or forcible sodomy and who is in immediate flight therefrom.
your bias is clear and really part of the problem
I certainly did not say that. But in the credibilty contest, they are beating Sutton to a pulp.
On that, we agree, CindyDawg. I fear that it is going to take another terrorist attack before our government officials will do what needs to be done, and fast, to secure our borders. Homeland Security has done a lot since 9/11, but one does not secure their home with the finest security system money can buy, and then leave their back door wide open.
I wish people who are debating the Ramos/Compean case would debate the case on its own merits. I do not believe that Ramos and Compean are innocent victims but that does not mean that I am for open borders and illegal immigration.
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