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Astronaut Seeks Craft to Bump Asteroids
AP via Earthlink ^ | January 23, 2007 | AP

Posted on 01/23/2007 8:52:26 PM PST by John W

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1 posted on 01/23/2007 8:52:27 PM PST by John W
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I'd like to develop space factories which land on asteroids and process them into something useful. With a long enough lead time, why just move things around?


2 posted on 01/23/2007 8:56:18 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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A tractor spacecraft would be a good idea.

You would need space docking and refueling. What would the propulsion system be? It would need to catch asteroids early enough that small changes in their orbits would translate to clean misses of earth. You can't do that in low earth orbit!

But just think of what it would mean to have a craft that could flit around the inner solar system with enough power to nudge asteroids! Just that technology alone could open up space travel!

3 posted on 01/23/2007 8:58:59 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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Gravitational pull is determined by mass and distance. Distanc eisn't much of a problem but you're going to have to have a lot of mass to get the asteroid moved in time unless we can get far away from Earth to alter it's pass before it gets close.

Seems unrealistic but a novel idea anyways.


4 posted on 01/23/2007 8:59:58 PM PST by Bogey78O (Nifong's final appeal before St. Peter should get tossed.)
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A tractor of that magnitude would have to have a LOT of mass to make enough of a difference. Ping for later research


5 posted on 01/23/2007 9:03:20 PM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: John W
For our great grandchildren bumping asteroids might be something you do on a dull Saturday afternoon.


6 posted on 01/23/2007 9:06:24 PM PST by capt. norm (Liberalism = cowardice disguised as tolerance.)
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7 posted on 01/23/2007 9:06:52 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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Comes with previous crash experience.

8 posted on 01/23/2007 9:07:35 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Well, it's 2007. Time to get ready for 2008.)
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To: John W; Coyoteman; Bogey78O; Danae
A spacecraft of sufficient mass is sent to rendezvous with the asteroid and placed in a hover position to tow the asteroid with no physical attachment using just the micro-gravity attraction of the spacecraft mass as the towline. The gravity tractor, powered by nuclear-electric propulsion, would employ thrusters angled away from the asteroid to maintain hover distance and direction of tow.

The gravity tractor method is feasible if the threatening asteroid is detected early enough and at a sufficient distance from Earth. Based on calculations, it’s theorized that a 20 ton spacecraft could sufficiently deflect a typical 200 meter in diameter asteroid if given a lead time of 20 years. Deflecting a larger asteroid would require a spacecraft of greater mass or more lead time.

Whatever methods are employed to divert the trajectory of asteroids, early detection and better understanding of the objects are critical. That’s why there is great interest in funding increased efforts to explore known Near-Earth Orbit objects and search for presently undetected NEO objects.

9 posted on 01/23/2007 9:11:47 PM PST by Unmarked Package (Amazing surprises await us under cover of a humble exterior.)
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To: John W
space tractor

Space barge!

10 posted on 01/23/2007 9:16:21 PM PST by donna
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I'm catching on here.

Now I think I know where they get polaroids.


11 posted on 01/23/2007 9:17:22 PM PST by capt. norm (Liberalism = cowardice disguised as tolerance.)
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If you can bump them away, you can bump them in too.

This makes nuclear war look like a schoolyard fight.

Who would be in control of the technology?
12 posted on 01/23/2007 9:19:31 PM PST by DBrow
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http://www.space.com/news/051103_asteroid_apophis.html

More info.....

Asteroid 99942 Apophis – first labeled as 2004 MN4 -- is estimated to be roughly 1,000 feet (320 meters) in diameter. Were it to strike Earth, it would not set off global havoc but would generate significant local or regional damage, experts say.

However

The ruin stemming from asteroid Apophis colliding with Earth would potentially be very great.

Indeed, the consequences, Schweickart suggested, would dwarf those seen as a result of the Indian Ocean tsunami in December 2004, hurricanes Katrina and Rita in September of this year, and the Pakistan earthquake last month.


13 posted on 01/23/2007 9:20:12 PM PST by perfect stranger
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To: Unmarked Package
A spacecraft of sufficient mass is sent to rendezvous with the asteroid and placed in a hover position to tow the asteroid with no physical attachment using just the micro-gravity attraction of the spacecraft mass as the towline. The gravity tractor, powered by nuclear-electric propulsion, would employ thrusters angled away from the asteroid to maintain hover distance and direction of tow.

The gravity tractor method is feasible if the threatening asteroid is detected early enough and at a sufficient distance from Earth. Based on calculations, it’s theorized that a 20 ton spacecraft could sufficiently deflect a typical 200 meter in diameter asteroid if given a lead time of 20 years. Deflecting a larger asteroid would require a spacecraft of greater mass or more lead time.

Whatever methods are employed to divert the trajectory of asteroids, early detection and better understanding of the objects are critical. That’s why there is great interest in funding increased efforts to explore known Near-Earth Orbit objects and search for presently undetected NEO objects.

That's kind of what I suspected.

We currently have nothing with the power to move large asteroids a sufficient distance anywhere near the earth, and no propulsion systems which could get way out (say, orbit of Mars) to take the long slow approach.

I think the price estimate of a few hundreds of millions of dollars are realistic for startup costs rather than hardware in orbit.

Moving a 200 meter diameter asteroid is a major effort unless its done millions of miles out. Even then you would need a craft that could accelerate to the asteroid, slow down and reverse course to match orbit, and then effect a change in the asteroid's orbit. And after that, hopefully slow down enough to return to earth at less than asteroid speeds.

I don't think we have the propulsion systems for this yet. And I don't think we are going to develop and launch it for a few hundred million dollars.

But we should be working on such a system whatever the cost. A craft that could do that could do a lot of other important things as well.

14 posted on 01/23/2007 9:21:47 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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...a 20 ton spacecraft could sufficiently deflect a typical 200 meter in diameter asteroid if given a lead time of 20 years.

Hmmmm...I hadn't thought about up-time of the spacecraft. Twenty years is a long time to keep something running continuously with no maintenance in a very hostile environment.

15 posted on 01/23/2007 9:24:16 PM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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17 posted on 01/23/2007 9:37:52 PM PST by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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Worried about asteroids! With heads so far up the as'roid garden they will never see one coming!

If we pay for this BS, I quit!
18 posted on 01/23/2007 9:37:53 PM PST by captain anode ("love it or leave it" Ramsey is a bottom feeder.)
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"I think the price estimate of a few hundreds of millions of dollars are realistic for startup costs rather than hardware in orbit."

And we'll just tx the crap out of people to pay for these dumb idea's, right? Of course, we'll need Al- Gore to make a "documentry" a few years in advance to sell the idea, cause a panic, and get the sheeple to wllingly give you their money.

19 posted on 01/23/2007 9:39:04 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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cant we just build a really cool laser? it would be more fun.


20 posted on 01/23/2007 9:40:38 PM PST by isom35
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