Posted on 01/23/2007 5:17:59 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
I don't think there's any question that the Islamic world hates America because of the values/behaviors cherished by the cultural left. Shortly before the fall of the Shah of Iran, thousands of Iranian students fled to the US and enrolled in American colleges. My school admitted hundreds of them, few of whom could even speak English. As these students experienced American life, they grew increasingly hostile--and learned enough of the language to make that hostility known.
It wasn't our democracy they despised. It was our very casual, recreational approach to sex and sexuality. They described us as decadent beyond anything they had imagined possible, and they were horrified that the Shah was bringing our depraved ways back to their own country. If they had not returned to Iran to help create the Islamic state there, I have no doubt that some of them would have started murdering Americans at random.
"The traditional Muslims are the recruiting pool for radical Islam."
Finally someone who gauges the situation.
We have millions of "traditional" Muslims right here living among us - the breeding place for our future terrorists. We don't have to go to Iraq to find terrorists - they are shopping at Niemann Marcus, attending our universities, eating BBQ (beef that is), paying taxes and trying to get well settled in American society and politics.
Courtesy of those who promote diversity.
False. Islamic culture is especially conservative in valuing the public appearance of female modesty and childhood innocence. In private they abuse both, often violently.
Same could more easily be said of Baptists, if you're going to judge an entire faith by the acts of certain individuals who use it as a cloak of respectability.
Immoral sex has been in Islamic society for longer than the United States has existed. From selling young girls into temporary arranged marriages or forced prostitution, to wealthy Muslims keeping sex slaves locked in their palaces, to gangs of thugs assaulting not only young female but also young male tourists, they have had plenty of decadence of their own.
D'Souza gives the Islamic nihilists way too much credit. Conservatives should not fall into the Jerry Falwell/D'Souza trap.
It could be said all right, but then it would be bull. Islam has had a sexuality problem since its inception. Pederasty is rampant as the entertainment of choice from the Gulf States to Morocco.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty_in_the_Islamic_lands
This is like a "Duh" headline.
I think that many Muslims like what science provides but have little connection to science per se.
They are consumers of it, not producers.
bttt
Believe anything that you want to. I discussed an experience I had with a large group of Iranian Muslims, most of whom enthusiastically helped create the Islamic state there. It was clear to me that they hated the same things about America that many social conservatives do--especially porn and promiscuity. I suppose they especially hated them because they found them tempting. Similar opportunities for recreational sex may have been available in their homeland, but these young men were astonished (and appalled) at how easily and widely available they are here in the USA. I think D'Souza is right on target here. When the facts about the 9/11 killers came out, my first thought was "I know these guys - I know them very well."
Hugh Hewitt thrashed this guy, but I have to admit, wrt what he just wrote, I'd have to wholehearted agree with him: we don't offer an acceptable choice, and our 'face' is immoral. Obviously, slaughtering others is by definition (for us) immoral, but they are doing it for their Moon God, Satan, oops, Allah. That is somewhat of a crazy consistency.
I agree as well. I attended military training with two Muslim officers from friendly countries. I talked at length with both of them about worldviews and their countries. Both of them struck me as rather moderate.
Both of them were shocked at what they saw in the U.S. We have not always exported what is best about America....
Having lived a few years in Europe though I have to say the cultural liberties he references are even greater in Europe. Based on that I would have to say there are other reasons why we are the Great Satan (Israel perhaps?).
Poor Danesh.......he made Glenn Beck nearly do pee pee in his pants when it was time for the interview.
Oops....Dinesh
The Islamic world hates America because America is not part of the Islamic world. Simple as that.
A general overview of history will bear this out. Before America, there were great empires. Christianity ruled. Legendary cities flourished. Yet Islam sundered a vast part of Eastern Orthodox Christianity. This you will probably know, but I had to make a point.
The Battle of Lepanto and the Siege of Vienna were not over the sexual mores of the day. It was sheer conquest.
To OldFriend, I saw Glen Beck. Have to support the guy on many things, but he got caught flatfooted with D'Souza. We can all have varying views on this business of "hate America". The thing is to cull what we can, to add to our knowledge.
One could list say ten things, that have seemingly turned around the view of America, including those views of now weak,decadent Europeans. The "cultural left" is one. The fawning, unpatriotic, America depreciating Hollywood celebrities are in the same category . I count the likes of the Dixie Chicks and Michael Moore et al with them. Then there are certain vile academics. Those educators who seek to destroy every vestige of the American story are another group. Imagine these foreign students sitting their listening to them?
I was a child in WW2 in England. We would have starved without America. Some of us do not forget. I await Sean Hannitty's rallying cry. His quote.
Let not your heart be troubled.
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