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To: SunkenCiv

Uh, no they didn't.

They have had similar vices, but they had military and patriotic virtues the Hollywood liberal lack.

Further, they originally were very similar to early Americans in their views of military service, patriotism and pride of country as well as rigid morality.

Only later, LIKE US, did they allow success to warp their value system.


30 posted on 01/26/2007 9:58:57 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

The similar vices (such as men sodomizing boys, favoring oligarchy masquerading as democracy, etc) is what I was talking about. Military and patriotic virtues may have been here and there, as they were in early America, but mostly Rome was an expanding, colonizing, imperial power from the time its monarchy was overthrown.


31 posted on 01/26/2007 10:11:44 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
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