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New Rasmussen Poll: Poll: Giuliani 30% McCain 22%
Rasmussen ^ | 1/23/07

Posted on 01/23/2007 7:04:11 AM PST by areafiftyone

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To: TomGuy
Guliani, like it or not, folded rather than face Hillary for the NY Senate. [Why?]

Prostate cancer.

21 posted on 01/23/2007 7:22:20 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: HHKrepublican_2
I prefer Rudy over McCain but Romney over all.

Me too. I am unaware of Rudy or Romney being in outright violation of the oath to uphold the Consitution.

22 posted on 01/23/2007 7:24:44 AM PST by groanup (Limited government is the answer. Now, what's the question?)
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To: areafiftyone

Newt Gingrich/Ben Stein '08


23 posted on 01/23/2007 7:25:59 AM PST by Lewite (Praise YAHWEH and Proclaim His Wonderful Name! Islam, the end time Beast-the harlot of Babylon.)
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To: Dark Skies

You missed the last paragraph of my previous comment.

Postrate cancer didn't seem to deter John Kerry's run for the White House.


24 posted on 01/23/2007 7:26:22 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: B Knotts
Newt is straight forward, I am not sure about Romney, I know very little about him buy I like what I hear, Rudy, double no. Mclimp and Lindsey Graham no, Graham has his nose stuck up into a certain part of the body of McLimp, Newt possibly and then there is Romney leaning that way.
25 posted on 01/23/2007 7:27:28 AM PST by gulfcoast6
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To: TomGuy
[If you say 'no', then ask yourself, 'why did he fold in NY?' Postrate cancer?

OH PULEEEZ! Rudy's father died of Prostrate cancer. Rudy caught his and opted for implantation of radioactive "seeds" in the prostate. Before the procedure, Giuliani was treated for four months with Lupron, a drug that blocks the production of testosterone, the male hormone that prostate cancer cells thrive on.

The "seed" treatment was followed by external radiation.

Giuliani said he chose double radiation over surgery because the expected side effects of impotence and incontinence "would be less, and more manageable. I had side effects for some time, but now my health is fine, and the side effects are gone."

Everyone is different and chooses different treatments. Would you have liked him to campaign dragging and IV along with him?

26 posted on 01/23/2007 7:28:09 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: areafiftyone

The bad news just keeps coming. With any of the top three or four mentioned, we'll be lucky to get 40% of the popular vote.


27 posted on 01/23/2007 7:28:50 AM PST by jammer
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To: zarf

I do fear that Rino Rudy will win the nomination. It will almost certainly mean a rat win. He is unelectable rino liberal.


28 posted on 01/23/2007 7:30:45 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Antoninus

A quick glance at the primary/caucus schedule (still subject to change) shows that the primaries begin on Jan. 22 and effectively end on Feb. 5 with possibly 15 states having primaries on that date.

Things have gotten so front-loaded it's much, much harder than ever for some darkhorse to build a groundswell of support - money going in before the primaries is more important than ever.

Until I looked at the sched, I was sort of vaguely aware of this, but it really hits you once you look.

Frankly, it's hard to even make a case for a guy like Romney being able to make it vs. McCain/Giuliani in that environment - much less tha cabal of either already hated (Gingrich) or zero name recognition "True Conservative" faves here.


29 posted on 01/23/2007 7:31:06 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: areafiftyone
Blah blah blah.

NO northeastern inner-city liberal RINOs need apply.

Too bad RINO-rudy's relatives don't grow weary of posting this tripe.

30 posted on 01/23/2007 7:31:54 AM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: jammer
The bad news just keeps coming. With any of the top three or four mentioned, we'll be lucky to get 40% of the popular vote.

In case you haven't noticed, Free Republic and the country as a whole are two different electorates.

31 posted on 01/23/2007 7:32:26 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Hydroshock
I do fear that Rino Rudy will win the nomination. It will almost certainly mean a rat win. He is unelectable rino liberal.

If Rudy can win the nomination (as you postulate), then he is *far* from unelectable in the General.

32 posted on 01/23/2007 7:32:28 AM PST by Wormwood (Your Friendly Neighborhood Moderate)
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To: gulfcoast6

Yep...that's pretty much where I am on the candidates. Some of the second-tier guys are OK if they can get some traction.


33 posted on 01/23/2007 7:32:40 AM PST by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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To: Strategerist

I noticed. What's your point? We'll be lucky to get 30%?


34 posted on 01/23/2007 7:33:24 AM PST by jammer
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To: Wormwood

A pro gay, pro illegal, pro abortion, and anti gun liberal like Rino Rudy will swell the ranks of third party voters or just get many conservatives and evangelicals to stay home.


35 posted on 01/23/2007 7:35:20 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Strategerist

McCain, although I dislike him, could probably win the general election. Giuliani...no way. Romney...maybe.


36 posted on 01/23/2007 7:35:55 AM PST by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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To: jammer
I noticed. What's your point? We'll be lucky to get 30%?

Anyone outside the trio of McCain/Romney/Giuliani has precisely zero chance of winning the general election, rather than the reverse.

At least frame the debate in a rational way.

37 posted on 01/23/2007 7:36:03 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist
My point was that anyone inside the trio of McCain/Romney/Giuliani has precisely zero chance of winning. It's going to be a long eight years.
38 posted on 01/23/2007 7:39:49 AM PST by jammer
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To: TomGuy
Oops. Sorry.

But the fact that they both had prostate cancer and one chose to run and another didn't is to overlook the types of treatment chosen and the timing. I don't know all the details but I do know that Kerry had surgery and Giuliani had hormone therapy and a treatment with radiation in implanted pellet form and 25 external radiation treatments over a five-week period.

Source for Giuliani's treatment

39 posted on 01/23/2007 7:40:36 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: areafiftyone
Looking at these candidates (and squinting in disgust, through a crack between my fingers, at the Dem candidates), I feel even more fortunate to have this guy as my PM.

Ron Paul sounds good on everything except his stance on defense...the rest are more hole than boat. Is it folly to still hope for a candidate in the mold of Reagan or Goldwater? Sure, one runs into the problem of letting perfect become the enemy of good enough...but damn.

40 posted on 01/23/2007 7:41:14 AM PST by M203M4
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