The Vietnam history you haven't heard

Christian Science Monitor ^ | 1/22/07 | Mark Moyar

[siddude]

QUANTICO, VA. - With ever-increasing frequency, Americans are told that Iraq is another Vietnam, usually by those accusing the Bush administration of miring the United States in a hopeless war. For most who make this comparison, the Vietnam War was an act of hubris, fought for no good reason and in alliance with cowards. But new historical research shows this conventional interpretation of Vietnam to be deeply flawed. The analogy, therefore, must be rethought.

Three journalists handed down the standard version of the Vietnam War in three bestselling tomes. The first two, David Halberstam's "The Best and the Brightest" (1972) and Stanley Karnow's "Vietnam: A History," (1983) each sold more than 1 million copies, while the third, Neil Sheehan's "A Bright Shining Lie" (1988), received the Pulitzer Prize and the National Book Award.

[potlatch]

Thanks for the ping IT

[tanuki]

Thanks for posting!

I've just finished Moyar's book, 'Triumph Forsaken', and recommend it. Comparing the media establishment then to the crowd reporting Iraq now is an eye-opener.

[JOE43270]

Nobody seems to figure that out. We militarily won Viet Nam and the way we lost it was back here on college campuses and in Washington D. C.

[RVN Airplane Driver]

Your remarks resemble as you say a "dullard"...although I regret my first time voting....for Johnson...he was anything but a dullard....rather a cunning POS....and the Bush's...both honest and brillant....and history will judge them....as for your comments.....dullard!!!

[Grampa Dave]

Fyi. Thanks to the poster and various pingers.

[BIGLOOK]

I still have a small library of books on Viet Nam. A good beginning point is Hell in a Very Small Place andThe Viet Nam Reader by Bernard Fall. But probably the most revealing book was written not to long ago by General Vo Nguyen Giap, our old nemesis. I haven't laid hands on it yet but the gist of it is the US lost VN politically not on the battle field. This from the commander of the NVNA who realized defeat of his forces.
I have little doubt that Al Q'aeda and the jihadists hope to recreate the paradigm of Viet Nam in Iraq and throughout the Mid East.....with the aid of their 'useful idiots' in the press.

[zot]

Thanks for the ping. I am very glad to see factual efforts to set the record straight.

[ALOHA RONNIE]

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NEVER FORGET


The Words
http://www.Freerepublic.com/~ALOHARONNIE


The Pictures
http://www.RickRescorla.com/The%20Statue.htm


The Heroism
http://www.ArmchairGeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24361


NEVER FORGET

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[ALOHA RONNIE]

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NEVER FORGET


For...

'WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE...& YOUNG'...4 FREEDOM

http://www.lzxray.com

http://www.Freerepublic.com/forum/a39626542519c.htm


"WE WERE SOLDIERS" - The Movie

http://www.WeWereSoldiers.com


"WE WERE SOLDIERS" - The Photos

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm


NEVER FORGET

[Syncro]

Thanks for the Heads Up, IP.

TS, I don't trust any of them, AP included.

But Reuters has quite a record, even got an Award

[Syncro]

Thanks for the ping, IT.

I forgot to ping you to my last post with that message.

Good article

[Syncro]

It's good to see the same message from different points of view. This Article is from a different source.

[ALOHA RONNIE]

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NEVER FORGET

After Sen. TED KENNEDY pushed a post-WATERGATE Congress into cutting off funding for the then Free South Vietnamese to fight for their own Freedom with,

...just as the Communist Soviet Union gave $6 Billion to the Communist North Vietnamese for their 'Final Solution' planned for the South.

$6 Billion that translated into 600 Soviet tanks and 1,000's of mobile artillery pieces aimed at cutting South Vietnam in half at the Central Highlands and then dash to Victory in the Capitol Saigon.


Resulting in:

Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education (SLAVE LABOR) Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts


Sen. TED KENNEDY is now pushing Congress real hard to do the same to the Free People of Iraq, in a new time of war with our Freedom directly at stake here at home,

...with an Enemy that's now just around the corner and up your street.

To what result, I wonder..?

12 Million suddenly missing Iraqi purple Voting fingers..?

4-Sure, 4-Sure.

NEVER FORGET

[zot]

I will never forget.

[leadpenny]

Looks like the same article from the same source.
What am I missing?

[Grampa Dave]

"I have little doubt that Al Q'aeda and the jihadists hope to recreate the paradigm of Viet Nam in Iraq and throughout the Mid East.....with the aid of their 'useful idiots' in the press."

You are correct. Call them 'Useful Mediots'.

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks Ron.

There are a lot of us who will never forget.

The problem we have is the lack of an honest media to tell the truth.

[Syncro]

Oops sorry you are correct.

Moving too fast...

Mea maxima culpa

[leadpenny]

None required, but thx.

[Libertina]

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