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To: onyx

RWR would be ashamed of them. Deeply ashamed. I know you like Bush too; I was just saying, for presidential timber, he's the one for me.

bbl - I have to go do some stuff with Mr. P and I'm just smiling that some freepers (not you) just can't admit the truth about Reagan. He was great. But he wasn't perfect. LOL


31 posted on 01/22/2007 10:01:55 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
I love it. Post 28: I'm sure it's just coincidence that Ronald Reagan used to be a democrat and signed the most liberal abortion legislation in the issue before changing his mind too.

Post 31: RWR would be ashamed of them. Deeply ashamed.

You want it both ways, don't you?

33 posted on 01/22/2007 10:05:19 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter - I still like ya, but please read the 10th and get back to me regarding Congr pardons)
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To: Peach
Here is the real story about Reagan's signing of the abortion bill in question:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/ac/?id=110004264

The most telling example of conservative indifference to the abortion issue occurred in California. In 1967, then-Gov. Ronald Reagan signed a bill that virtually decriminalized abortion. At the time, Mr. Reagan was troubled by the passionate lobbying against the bill by Cardinal Francis McIntyre. But on the advice of two of his most conservatives advisers, Ed Meese and Lyn Nofziger, Mr. Reagan signed anyway. He persuaded himself that the measure would have little impact. Instead, it prompted a surge in abortions.

Roe v. Wade changed the terms of the abortion debate, but not instantly. At first, conservatives were more upset by the decision's dubious legal reasoning and its creation of a new constitutional right unmentioned in the Constitution itself than by the actual impact. But it soon became clear that the supposedly complicated three-trimester scheme laid out in the ruling wasn't really so complicated. It meant abortion on demand, and the number of abortions soared into the millions.

Roe v. Wade had moved America into a dark new world. Defending the decision, radical feminists insisted that an unborn child was no more valuable as human life than a wart. A lucrative abortion industry grew up. The Democratic Party endorsed an unfettered right to an abortion in its 1980 platform.

Messrs. Reagan and Hyde were among the first Republicans to have strong misgivings. Within a year after signing the abortion bill, Mr. Reagan told political writer Lou Cannon that he'd never have done so if he'd been more experienced in office. It was "the only time as governor or president that Reagan acknowledged a mistake on major legislation," Mr. Cannon writes in his new book, "Governor Reagan: His Rise to Power." By 1980, Mr. Reagan was campaigning for president in favor of banning abortion in all but rare cases.

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First - Reagan got bad advice before signing the bill.

Second - he realized it was a mistake to sign the bill a year later.

Third - he did not wait to become pro-life in 1975 when he started to seek the presidency.

35 posted on 01/22/2007 10:10:48 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter - I still like ya, but please read the 10th and get back to me regarding Congr pardons)
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