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Talk of universal health care grows
Yahoo ^ | ROBERT TANNER

Posted on 01/20/2007 10:05:55 PM PST by LazarusMan

By ROBERT TANNER, AP National Writer

Health care for all — an elusive goal that has tantalized presidents and governors for decades — is roaring back this year with ambitious proposals in a handful of prominent states.

The promise: Cover millions of uninsured adults and children. Improve the quality of care at hospitals and doctor's offices. Rein in rising costs that are eating up workers' wages, company profits and state budgets.

The problem: Someone's got to pay. And getting those with a stake in health care — doctors, insurers, hospitals, workers, employers, government — to agree on who and how much won't be easy.

The most influential effort is undoubtedly in California, the nation's most populous state, where GOP Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger this month introduced a bold plan that would provide health care coverage for 6.5 million residents without insurance.

With less fanfare, Pennsylvania has proposed a similar step and a half-dozen more states are actively debating the idea. All are building on a Massachusetts program that began this year — it likens health insurance to car insurance, making it a requirement for everyone.

If successful, the states could carve out a long-sought path for universal health care, a goal that's been politically dead since the Clinton administration. But that's a big "if" — passage won't be easy and the programs aren't cheap.

The Associated Press looked at proposals in front of state legislatures to break down the contentious issue.

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WHY HEALTH CARE IS HOT NOW: It's been talked about and debated for years, but wide agreement is emerging over the problem of health care's rising costs, which swallow wage increases and have threatened to overtake state spending on primary education. Businesses say they're at a disadvantage with global competitors.

The system can't survive another few years on the same track without collapsing, said Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, a Democrat.

"If California, Pennsylvania and Massachusetts prove it's doable — and Maine has already to some extent — it will create an unstoppable momentum," he said.

Maine brought the issue back in 2003, with a law seeking to provide universal coverage.

Massachusetts' law last year — guaranteeing universal coverage — jump-started the action in state capitols.

In the last month, governors, legislative leaders and blue-ribbon commissions have declared universal coverage an attainable goal in Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, New Mexico, Oregon, Washington state and Wisconsin. Massachusetts and Vermont are to put their programs into effect this year, while Maine is tweaking its existing system. Many more are considering significant expansions.

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HOW UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE COVERAGE WOULD WORK: The overall goal is to get everyone, or nearly everyone, health insurance. The plans also aim to cut costs by improving efficiency, and to improve the quality of care. The plans being discussed would accomplish that in the following ways.

• All would build on the existing public and private insurance system to provide insurance and health care access to most or all the uninsured in their states — now some 46 million people nationwide.

• All aim to expand existing Medicaid programs to cover more of the poor and working poor who don't have insurance. They would require employers who don't provide insurance to do so. They seek some financial contributions or savings from doctors and insurers.

• They would establish a state mechanism that creates an insurance product, or sets up a marketplace, so that small businesses and individuals can get reasonably priced insurance.

• Some plans mandate that every individual must have insurance — not unlike mandatory auto insurance for every driver — with financial help for those too poor to buy it outright.

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THE BIGGEST BARRIER: The biggest stumbling block is money. Who pays?

In California, doctors and hospitals are already unhappy with Schwarzenegger's plan to levy a 2 percent fee on doctors and a 4 percent fee on hospitals. He would cap profits for insurers by requiring that 85 percent of revenue be devoted to treating patients: That idea alone sent the stock of health insurer Wellpoint Inc., with 34 million members, down 3.5 percent.

"He made enemies of every doctor and hospital in California when he did that," said Helen Darling, president of the National Business Group on Health, a consortium of companies trying to lower health costs.

In California, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts and Maine, state leaders said they were spreading the pain to every player, so every critic should stay on board.

"That's always been the biggest challenge in health care reform. There is no pain-free solution," said Drew Altman, president of the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation, a Washington-based health group.

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CHANCE OF SUCCESS: The next few months will determine whether enthusiasts like Rendell or Schwarzenegger win the argument.

In Minnesota, GOP Gov. Tim Pawlenty warns that simply focusing on getting everyone insurance ignores deeper problems, even as some leaders of the Legislature's new Democratic majority say this is the year for universal health care.

"Many policymakers around the country are so fixated on more access, they're losing sight of the need to simultaneously focus on cost and quality," Pawlenty said. "Expanding access to a broken system is no solution. ... In the long run, that will be a failure."

He wants universal coverage, he insisted, but warns that government can't end up with the bill. His plan would broaden coverage to more uninsured children and have the state create a marketplace where insurers can provide a more affordable product. It wouldn't mandate that everyone get coverage.

There are even deeper philosophical differences in other parts of the country, particularly more conservative states which have emphasized cutting Medicaid costs rather than expanding coverage.

But the new ideas are even getting an airing there.

In Florida, where the biggest health care change under former Gov. Jeb Bush emphasized cutting costs of Medicaid, the new surgeon general talked enthusiastically of Massachusetts' universal health coverage law — and new GOP Gov. Charlie Crist said he wouldn't rule out considering something along those lines.

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FLASH IN THE PAN? How the Massachusetts program and high-profile proposals do also will decide the staying power of health care as a political issue. After President Clinton's health care reform attempt failed in the 1990s, the issue went dormant for years.

"Once you pass these programs and start the implementing, it only gets harder," said Maine Gov. John Baldacci, a Democrat. "Because then you're talking about real dollars and real decisions."

Maine hasn't met its ambitious goals, with fewer businesses signing on to the state program. But Baldacci and state leaders are trying to fix the flaws.

"Hopefully," he said, "the chambers of commerce, the unions, the businesses will recognize we need a solution."


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Okay, I am going to take some hits on this one. But part of this I agree with. Privatization/Socialization might have a chance of success. Problem as stated in the article, who pays? Well, inevitably, you and I. But, there is a possible alternative; sharing the cost with the medical community, government, and the individual tax payer (pays reasonable fee out of pocket). Secondly, can this new system of semi socialisim handle a population the size of the United States without being bungled or collapsing in a few years. Proper management would obviously be crucial. Now, what I do not like is the governmental requirement of small businesses to cover people. That puts Mom and Pop operations at the mercy of the large insurance companies and they will get raked over the coals. No amount of government regulation will stop it.
1 posted on 01/20/2007 10:05:55 PM PST by LazarusMan
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To: LazarusMan
"Problem as stated in the article, who pays? "

Yeah....you KNOW who pays...those who ALWAYS pay for the un-productive, non-paying, and illegals.

The taxpayers who pay their own way now will just have to additionally pay for OTHERS' insurance, and there's no way around that.

2 posted on 01/20/2007 10:11:37 PM PST by traditional1
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To: traditional1

sad, but true


3 posted on 01/20/2007 10:14:35 PM PST by LazarusMan
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To: LazarusMan
Gee, since I've made enough to retire quite early, does that mean that I get free insurance if I refuse to pay?

Or is the STATE going to start seizing my assets for something that I don't want?

And its not like Auto insurance at all. - You don't have to own a car.
What they are saying is that I must pay for something that I refuse to pay for.

How will they enforce it? What will they steal?

okay kid, lets see that insurance card!


4 posted on 01/20/2007 10:19:45 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: LazarusMan

The very first step is to get rid of the illegals. I bet our government wouldn't have to do anything else to "fix" healthcare from where it is now, if we weren't paying for all of their medical care. What are the statistics on how much medical care for illegals is costing us?


5 posted on 01/20/2007 10:44:02 PM PST by conservative cat
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To: conservative cat

21 billion dollars in uncompensated medical care in as of 2001.


6 posted on 01/20/2007 10:45:29 PM PST by LazarusMan
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To: LazarusMan

Quality of care goes WAAAAAAAAAAAY down.

Friends in HMOs can't get adequate care. They can't go to a doctor and ask for a blood panel for instance. The doctor has to decide what they need.

I wouldn't give up private care for anything.


7 posted on 01/20/2007 10:49:01 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: BunnySlippers
I wouldn't give up private care for anything.

If Schwarzenegger and Rendell, for two, get their way, you won't have any choice. At the present time, those who turn 65 are eliglble for Medicare. I see that as a government program, not private insurance. Who but the wealthy can afford to opt out of signing up for Medicare?

I hope there's a better solution than adopting national health care. We've heard of the problems those of other countries have to tolerate with this system.

8 posted on 01/20/2007 11:42:39 PM PST by IIntense
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To: BunnySlippers

"Quality of care goes WAAAAAAAAAAAY down. "

I've been in the medical field for 40 yrs and have watched the level of competency go way down. People working in the lab should be saying "Do you want that supersized" and not doing lab tests. You get what you pay for. and.....

Everyone is going to pay for this ,big time.


9 posted on 01/21/2007 4:00:55 AM PST by heylady
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