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To: My2Cents
All Giuliani has to say is that he will appoint solid originalists to the federal courts, and he blunts whatever presumed opposition he might get from the social conservatives.

If two social liberals are running for president, enough social conservatives will stay home to ensure that the Democrat is elected.

That's just the way it is. Give them that choice (effectively no choice) and they'll stay home.

Giuiliani's promises to appoint originalists (by the way, he has also praised Ginsburg as a model justice) to the Supreme Court means nothing, especially with the Democrats in control of the Senate. He'll have incredible pressure to appoint a so-called "moderate" and that's very likely what he'll end up doing.

Beyond that, what makes you think that a conservative Supreme Court Justice pick (if it happens) somehow neutralizes the social liberal poison that a Giuiliani-Reid-Pelosi triumvirate will almost surely spike the national punchbowl with?

Point: The hideous three all support the radical gay rights agenda (allowing for verbal legerdemain in distinguishing the indistinguishable: gay marriage from domestic partnership). That agenda will be passed legislatively and you will see Giuliani sign it with relish. It will include expansive federal hate crimes legislation, possibly even more radical than what the Canadians and Europeans currently have.

Point: Giuliani, as the first prosecuting attorney to hold the presidency, will take an intense personal interest in prosecuting his social liberal "everyone must cease thinking hateful thoughts or I'll put them in jail" federal hate crimes. He did that in NYC. Why should we expect him to change?

Under President Giuliani, the number of US citizens that end up in jail for having politically unacceptable thoughts about homosexuality and Islam may well exceed the number of Muslims jailed for terrorist acts.

Point: Like most big city pols, Ex-prosecutor Giuliani hates--even fears--guns. He distrusts people who own them. The BATF will see a dramatic resurgence in its power and influence under a Giuliani administration. Result: more US citizen gun owners in jail. And if a Second Amendment case wends its way through the federal circuit courts to the SCOTUS how do you suppose gun-hating big city pol Giuliani will instruct the DOJ to argue the case on appeal? In favor of an individual right over a collective right? Think again.

Point: there is no shortage of destructive social liberal legislation that a Giuliani-Reid-Pelosi triumvirate will be able to pass. And an "originalist" SCOTUS would have little choice but to uphold that legislation no matter how wrong-headed and destructive it is.

Don't bother replying, "But Hillary will do the same thing." She sure will.

That's what social conservatives will be thinking to themselves when they consider whether they have a choice in a Giuliani-Hillary race. The answer is obvious: they have none. They will withdraw to ride out as best they can the gross evil and destruction that will be visited long-term upon the social fabric of this nation. If Giuliani and Hillary are our choices for president that evil is coming no matter what social conservatives do.

223 posted on 01/21/2007 7:38:44 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles; My2Cents
In a choice between Hillary and Rudy, as a social conservative of the highest order, there is a very clear choice.

One does not vote for evil, and one does not stay home and allow evil to enter the White House.

Both are irresponsible.

225 posted on 01/21/2007 11:49:12 AM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - courageously and honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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