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To: processing please hold
It's their job to spot illegal aliens, and they spotted him. As far as the gun casings go, the supervisor knew their guns were fired and didn't make a big deal of it since they all figured that no one was shot.You might find this bit of info interesting....Ramos related that none of the other agents who had responded to the scene had filed reports that shots were fired and that both supervisors knew that the agents had fired their weapons. Nonetheless, Compean and Ramos were singled out for prosecution. They were made examples of. All of this will come out in the wash eventually, and I believe they will go free and have it all expunged.

I wonder how a border agent, or anyone for that matter, can tell who is an illegal alien just by looking at them. There are so many Mexicans that are legal citizens now, and green card carrying foreigners so it must be difficult to tell the illegals apart from the legal ones just by looking at them. I can't even imagine how one would be capable of doing that.

I certainly hope that this isn't a case of the agents being made an "example of". An example of what? Our border agents are detaining and/or arresting illegal aliens every day. If I understand this correctly there were several shootings of illegals last year, including 4 deaths. However, in those cases the border agents followed the rules, reported the events, and none of them (as far as I know) received any reprimands, let alone charges against them.

That is interesting, if true, that the other agents who responded to the scene did not file reports showing that shots had been fired. Wasn't it their duty to do so since they are supposed to report the facts? If this is true, I would imagine that those agents must have been reprimanded. Do we know their names yet?

"The trial testimony of the defendants, fellow Border Patrol agents who were on the scene and who arrived shortly thereafter, as well as taped radio communications showed that there were no supervisors at the scene at the time of the shooting. The agents knew they must report any discharge of a firearm and had just received training to this effect the day before this shooting. Further, Agent Ramos was a Border Patrol firearms instructor and a member of the evidence recovery team. He was well aware of this requirement as he had taught this to other agents. They did not report the discharge because they knew the shooting was not justified. Furthermore, based on their training and experience, they were aware of what law enforcement resources would be dispatched to the crime scene to investigate a shooting, including sector evidence team, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and state and local law enforcement.

According to this information, there are "taped radio communications" showing that there were no supervisors at the scene. So unless the agents reported the shooting (which we hear they did not...and also hid the spent cartridges), then how are we to assume or believe that the supervisors knew. If the supervisors did know, and they also were negligent in reporting this, they should be reprimanded as well.

251 posted on 01/20/2007 5:04:54 PM PST by Chena
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To: Chena
I wonder how a border agent, or anyone for that matter, can tell who is an illegal alien just by looking at them.

They're professionals. They know the odds are that a Hispanic male driving a van full of marijuana across the border and then running south again to avoid capture is likely an illegal alien.

And, it turns out, that is just what he was.

261 posted on 01/20/2007 7:08:18 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: Chena
From what I read, davaila set off a sensor, that's how they knew he was there.

Not reporting a firing of your weapon is only a 5 day suspension. These guys are going to prison for a long time. They didn't know davila was injured, he jumped into a van that was already there and waiting for him.

Did you know agent Sanchez, who started this was a childhood friend of davalia? Sanchez I might add, is a mexican born US border agent. It's Sanchez that needs to be investigated and his connections to a known drug runner.

263 posted on 01/20/2007 7:27:32 PM PST by processing please hold (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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