Posted on 01/20/2007 12:29:06 AM PST by raccoonradio
>>a developmental disorder, described a boy with a penchant for the macabre and an interest in knives and bombs.
Brianna Hogge, also a junior at L-S, said Odgren was always asking how to get away with killing people and talking about how to make acid to make bombs. He was a really creepy kid.
Public school, nice place for him...
>> It was an accident, it was an accident.
He fell right onto the knife...
>>Odgren often wore a trench coat to school and talked about murder, forensics and how he wanted to make an acid bomb.
Columbine, Massachusetts
>> Hes on a number of medications and hes under the care of many physicians, said Shapiro.
Excuse: "off his meds"
Immediate lethal injection.
Department of Repetitive Reiteration.
Is there any such thing as a safe government school anymore?
Prayers for this poor kid's family.
Not sure what to pray for the murderer's family; they obviously didn't do enough to squelch their son's murderous fantasies.
Nice of the media to push out the insanity defense early on in the article, instead of just waiting to quote the defense attorney at the end. On a side topic, I've always disliked the ruling, "Not guilty by reason of insanity." I've always thought that, in a way, it allows them off the hook without a measured amount of responsibility. While they might not have had control of their faculties, they were ultimately responsible for whatever deaths occurred.
I think it should be a guilty ruling, and as such, carry more heft in the longterm removal from society of murderers. Insane? Fine, don't put them in regular prison, but if they aren't sane enough to live without hurting people, then they should be locked away in a mental facility for the same duration as a regular sentence would carry.
Ironic that the killer often spoke of wanting to make a bomb, killing someone, had an inordinate interest in knives...and yet nobody thought he was dangerous. This seems to be a familiar theme with kids who suddenly turn homicidal. Everyone excuses odd or morbid behavior as 'he's weird', etc., and no one does anything until it's too late. School should be held liable, also the state of MA...they mainstream handicapped kids, those on meds, etc. as often as possible...(cheaper than special schools.) In most cases, it works out, but this time, obviously not. This is a tragedy for everyone.
Kids who mistakenly bring a small knife to school to cut an apple are almost thrown in prison these days. This kid, who talked openly about mayhem and murder, was never considered suspicious?? Hard to believe. The system is broken somewhere.
..."Kids who mistakenly bring a small knife to school to cut an apple are almost thrown in prison these days. This kid, who talked openly about mayhem and murder, was never considered suspicious?? Hard to believe. The system is broken somewhere"...
Consolidated schools are too large..They are out of control. We would not want to live in a war zone, but, many of us, unknowingly send our kids to one every day of the week..Smart, intelligent kids, like this 15 year old victim will always be targets because of envy..Asperger's is no excuse..
"Shapiro said Odgren has Aspergers syndrome, a form of autism, and is a special education student."
Mainlining misfits takes another victim.
Of lead, by .45 ACP.
Socialization?
Consolidated schools are too large..They are out of control. We would not want to live in a war zone, but, many of us, unknowingly send our kids to one every day of the week..Smart, intelligent kids, like this 15 year old victim will always be targets because of envy..Asperger's is no excuse..
In the school district in which we live, there are about 350 students in junior high and high school. There are bomb threats, lock downs, drug searches, you name it. I blame a lot of this on the justice system and parents, usually only one parent, lack of responsibility. Bring back the board.
When John Odgren is released from prison, I hope the father is awaiting with a sniper rifle.
That's my 2 cent's worth of amateur, pseudo psycho-analysis, the rest of my opinion is simple ... kill the little bastard.
They should have taken Mr. Odgren out behind the school sat him down in the grass and shot him in the head. Faster and easier on everyone involved.
Excellent post and I completely agree with you.
I'm betting that is not true. Would love to see all the 'files' (medical, gov't, school, police) on this kid.
carolyn
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