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Russian Academic Says CO2 Not to Blame for Global Warming!
RIA Novosti ^ | 1/15/2007 | RIA

Posted on 01/19/2007 11:03:47 PM PST by Dallas59

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To: farlander

Yes, and pollution in the old Soviet Union was horrendous. Far worse than anything we could even imagine here in the US.

But now that CO2 is considered "pollution," the US is the worse "polluter" simply by virtue of being the most economically developed and therefore using the most energy.


21 posted on 01/19/2007 11:58:23 PM PST by RussP
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To: Dallas59

"But the world's top polluter, the United States,"

I wonder if this is supposed to reference the scientist's arguement in a flawed way. Maybe the author is making reference to the large amount of CO2 produced by US industry (Not sure where this is the highest), or the incredibly large release of harmful chemicals by China.


22 posted on 01/20/2007 12:08:38 AM PST by digital-olive
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To: farlander

"The world's top polluter is *CHINA*."

What's up with you? That's like denying that Cuba's medical system is the envy of the world!


23 posted on 01/20/2007 12:12:24 AM PST by raftguide
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To: Jim Robinson

ROFL


24 posted on 01/20/2007 12:13:35 AM PST by Greystoke
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To: bruinbirdman
The term "global warming" is out. That has achieved pejorative status. The operative euphemistic phrase is now "climate change".

Maybe the communists realize that global warming (which was mostly natural anyways) is about to turn into global cooling (again, a natural process). Even the communists realize they cannot say for years "Global warming is destroying the planet and the only thing that can save the world is communism!" and then turn around and say "Global cooling is destroying the planet and the only thing that can save the world is communism!"

"Climate change" is a useful catch-phrase because nature is not static, unlike what the green witch-doctors preach. And now the green witch-doctors are about to ban scientific inquiry about the environment. Who knows, the "progressives" might even ban the discussion of sunspots and we will be back to where we were 500 years ago.

25 posted on 01/20/2007 12:20:38 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: kb2614
Yep, the article was going well until that point. I guess the PRC's numerous coal fired plants which now pollute the US skies don't count.
26 posted on 01/20/2007 12:46:15 AM PST by Left2Right ("Democracy isn't perfect, but other governments are so much worse")
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To: Jim Robinson
I hope he doesn't eat me...*shudder*


27 posted on 01/20/2007 12:51:26 AM PST by Dallas59 (HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007!)
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To: Dallas59

Looks like he's giving you the evil eye.


28 posted on 01/20/2007 12:53:43 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Dallas59
Интересно.
29 posted on 01/20/2007 1:22:53 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: proud_yank

"In Russia? Why do I imagine his days are numbered for going against todays driving force of international socialism??"


The Russians might be so put off, their economic plans count on selling as much oil and natural gas as possible....


30 posted on 01/20/2007 2:03:18 AM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: Dallas59

This guy is DEAD ON THE MONEY!!! I have never seen so much IDIOCY on any other topic!!!


31 posted on 01/20/2007 4:12:58 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Dallas59
But the world's top polluterproducer, the United States, is still reluctant to sign on for fear the treaty's emission commitments will slow down the country's economic growth.
32 posted on 01/20/2007 4:16:24 AM PST by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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To: Dallas59

Everyone knows it's cow farts.


33 posted on 01/20/2007 4:19:20 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Well, they wanted to be just like the Dems. Now, they're just like the Dems.)
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To: Left2Right
I guess the PRC's numerous coal fired plants which now pollute the US skies don't count.

I think the reference is to the 300 million cars in the US vs. about 160 million in china. And the US also produces about 60 % of its electricity via coal also.

34 posted on 01/20/2007 7:42:58 AM PST by staytrue
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To: Halgr
Now to figure out what the motive of the Libs is....in encouraging junk science

That's easy.

1. Money. Grants to study global warming amount to billions of dollars.

2. Power. If this hysteria continues, it is obvious that a central Global Warming Commissariat will be needed to tend to all the carbon producers, issuing permits for plant construction and watching over carbon credit transfers. And who is better suited to form and head up such a Commissariat but those sounding the alarum loudest!

Gore for Global Warming Czar?? Man, consider the power that divinity school flunkout would have.

35 posted on 01/20/2007 9:29:48 AM PST by Ole Okie
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To: Wilhelm Tell
"Maybe the communists realize that global warming (which was mostly natural anyways) is about to turn into global cooling (again, a natural process)."

Perceptive.

Thirty or forty years ago it was the "coming ice age". Now "global warming" is debunked as a natural occurring phenomenon. "Climate change" is just as ludicrous a term. However, since global warming is just a matter of plotting temperature over time and place, I suppose climate change, impossible to quantify, is, thus, the perfect victim for whackos.

Climate change is much more encompassing and emotional: hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunamis (I know, no weather there, but that doesn't matter to whackos), El Nino, floods, drought, landslides, avalanches, forest fires. The permutations are almost infinite.

Notice that the grand victims of environmental elitists have no voice; they do no complaining: trees, owls, environment, ecosystems, pets, water, climate. These "constituents" vote neither yea nor nae.

yitbos

36 posted on 01/20/2007 11:44:08 AM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: bruinbirdman
... I suppose climate change, impossible to quantify, is, thus, the perfect victim for whackos.

You got it. "Climate change" is virtually meaningless so of course it can be defined to mean anything. Are there many major hurricanes one year? Climate change. Are there few hurricanes the next year? Again, climate change. Is the weather too cold? Climate change. Is the weather too warm? Climate change. Is the weather just right? Climate change. No one knows what climate change is but the cure for climate change is always socialism.

37 posted on 01/20/2007 10:23:43 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: wodinoneeye

There are several interesting aspects to this story. First, this scientist is not paid to say "global warming"...nor is his research money at threat if he goes in a different direction...nor is he going to be fired. Russian scientists are amongst the most "free-minded" men on the face of the earth. Second...of all the nations in the industrial world...Russia is going to be the last to talk openly about global warming. Their dream of moving Saudi Arabia down to number two and becoming an economic powerhouse in twenty years by use of oil and natural gas...is dependent on no halts because of global warming. Third and most important...the respect in the international community for Russian science...is fairly deep. They breed thinkers...independent logic...and "outside-the-box" concepts. Remember the Palm...with the text recognition software? Palm went to Russia to have that developed but refused to say precisely how it would be used. When delivered...Palm immedately started sales of the Palm Pilot...then the Russian developers said with glee..."if we had known that was the final intent...we'd made it twice as good as what we developed".


38 posted on 01/20/2007 10:38:00 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: bruinbirdman
The operative euphemistic phrase is now "climate change".

They're hedging all their bets. No matter what happens, whether it be the presence or absence of hurricanes, warm winters or blizzards, floods or droughts, advancing or receding glaciers, ... it all falls under the heading "climate change".

39 posted on 01/20/2007 10:50:12 PM PST by Dave Olson
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