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F-16 crashes in California, pilot safe
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| 1/19/2007
| Lieven Dewitte
Posted on 01/19/2007 2:00:58 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
January 19, 2007 (by Lieven Dewitte) - A California Air National Guard F-16C (#84-1279) crashed today near Owens Lake in remote eastern California, but the pilot safely ejected and was not hurt.
An engine failure in the jet caused the pilot to bail out during a training exercise, Guard officials said.
Search and rescue personnel from China Lake Naval Air Station recovered the pilot. The F-16 belongs to the 194th "Griffins" FS which is based at Fresno ANG Base, CA and is the flying unit of the 144th FW.
The cause of the crash is being investigated.
The vast and desolate Owens Lake area about 200 miles north of Los Angeles is a largely dry lakebed favored for military training runs.
It lies east of the Fresno headquarters of the California Air National Guard; The Sierra Nevada, with peaks towering above 14,000 feet, lies between the base and the Owens Valley.
The 144th Fighter Wing is the Southwest's "main operating base," where aircraft, weapons, maintenance, intelligence and support functions are clustered for the explicit purpose of homeland security.
TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: lawndart
Glad he got out OK.
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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posted on
01/19/2007 2:01:27 PM PST
by
Jeff Chandler
("... without victory there is no survival." - Winston Churchill)
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Why is Arnold putting our children in harm's way?!
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posted on
01/19/2007 2:02:03 PM PST
by
Jeff Chandler
("... without victory there is no survival." - Winston Churchill)
Comment #4 Removed by Moderator
To: Jeff Chandler
Hey, I heard from the DNC for the last 7 years that Air National Guard was just about getting drunk and avoiding war.
Serves this draft doger right!
/um, yeah, sarcasm/
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posted on
01/19/2007 2:03:40 PM PST
by
MeanWestTexan
(Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
To: MeanWestTexan
Reminds me of the Navy Reserve commercial on an episode of the Simpsons: "Once you complete basic training, you only work one weekend a month, and most of that time you're drunk off your ass. The Naval Reserve: America's 17th line of defense!"
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Owens Lake area... is a largely dry lakebedGlad he punched out safely, but wonder why he didn't dead-stick it onto the lakebed ala Edwards.
oh well...
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posted on
01/19/2007 2:17:55 PM PST
by
GoldCountryRedneck
("Idiocy - Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large numbers" - despair.com)
To: MeanWestTexan
I can't believe the Dems have gotten away with smearing the National Guard all these years as part of their never-ending Bush-bashing.
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posted on
01/19/2007 2:18:03 PM PST
by
JennysCool
(If your attitude's appalling, there's a latitude that's calling)
To: GoldCountryRedneck
Could it have been an uncontained failure during which shrapnel from the disentegrating engine damaged his ability to control the aircraft? Usually when I think of 'engine failure' my thoughts run along the flame out line, but apparently engine failure can do a lot more than shut down the engine! There's an awful lot of parts, big and small, going round and round in that engine and when one of them comes apart it can be pretty exciting I guess.
So glad he got out safely though!
To: jwparkerjr
..uncontained failure... which... damaged his ability to control the aircraft? Yeah. Monday-morning 1/4-backing a pilot with problems isn't productive. Mine was just an idle observation...
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posted on
01/19/2007 2:39:47 PM PST
by
GoldCountryRedneck
("Idiocy - Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large numbers" - despair.com)
To: GoldCountryRedneck
Oh no, I wasn't taking you to task for wondering about a dead stick landing, just curious if anyone had heard the details of the 'engine failure'. That term could cover a multitude of sins! I think of puttering through the sky at 85 knots in my 1947 Aeronca Champ 7-AC when engine failure usually just means you are no longer to stay the usual 20 knots or so above stall. Hardly the same I guess with an aircraft that has the glide ratio of a brick!
To: GoldCountryRedneck
Its not that close to Edwards and only if he had been at altitude. He was probably low level and parts of it are wet this time of year.
A similar incident with a pilot in an A4 Navy Skyhawk with VFA127 who ran out of fuel during a training exercise closer to China Lake attempted a dead stick landing and lost his life. I was helping train pilots at NAS Lemoore at the time. VFA127 is the aggressor squadron and was flying out of Lemoore and Fallon at the time. He was a well liked pilot and it was sad to see him go out this way.
That same year we lost another F-18 pilot who lost situational awareness in the same area and flew right into the wet (dry lake). Practicing low level bomb runs on a semicloudy day over water 10 feet deep that mirrored the sky and his wing watched him roll right into the lake. He caught his mistake at the last second but to late. He struck the lake rebounded and ejected low level to no avail.
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posted on
01/19/2007 3:19:22 PM PST
by
Mat_Helm
To: Mat_Helm; jwparkerjr
attempted a dead stick landing and lost his life.Good point. We GA-types do sometimes forget that "best glide speed" in a jet doesn't buy much distance or controllability when you get there.
As another pointed out, too, the engine may have wiped out the airframe along the way.
Yep. Sometimes it is best to just tidy up the cockpit and step out...
Lemoore, huh? Think that was home to a number of the VA squadrons based on our carrier during the 'Nam era. Seems like a zillion years ago!
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posted on
01/19/2007 3:45:48 PM PST
by
GoldCountryRedneck
("Idiocy - Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large numbers" - despair.com)
To: jwparkerjr
my 1947 Aeronca Champ 7-ACColor me envious!!
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posted on
01/19/2007 3:47:51 PM PST
by
GoldCountryRedneck
("Idiocy - Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large numbers" - despair.com)
To: GoldCountryRedneck
It's not mine anymore. I rue the day it left my possession. Sure would like to find another one now. I am getting old and all I want to do is go out on the weekend and punch holes in the sky.
My son is a helicopter pilot for a sheriff's office here in Florida. Has the best job in the world. Works overnight and is building hours under the best of circumstances. He recently did his rotary wing instrument rating and had to do it in a Hughes 300, when all of his hours recently are in the JetRanger. Tough life!
To: jwparkerjr
My son is a helicopter pilot for a sheriff's office... Tough life!Yeah..... but somebody's gotta do it!!!
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posted on
01/19/2007 4:49:18 PM PST
by
GoldCountryRedneck
("Idiocy - Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large numbers" - despair.com)
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