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1 posted on 01/18/2007 12:36:27 PM PST by calcowgirl
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2 posted on 01/18/2007 12:39:18 PM PST by Gritty (Rule by the people is threatened if they are unable to gain a plausible grip on reality-Tony Blankle)
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To take one more example: the right to the pursuit of happiness is precisely that: the right to the pursuit--to a certain type of action on your part and its result--not to any guarantee that other people will make you happy or even try to do so. Otherwise, there would be no liberty in the country: if your mere desire for something, anything, imposes a duty on other people to satisfy you, then they have no choice in their lives, no say in what they do, they have no liberty, they cannot pursue their happiness. Your "right" to happiness at their expense means that they become rightless serfs, i.e., your slaves. Your right to anything at others' expense means that they become rightless.
3 posted on 01/18/2007 12:47:35 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather.)
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I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)

We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.
Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826), letter to Samuel Kercheval, July 12, 1816

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)


4 posted on 01/18/2007 12:57:48 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke today warned lawmakers to immediately address Social Security and Medicare reforms.


5 posted on 01/18/2007 1:01:17 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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I might agree if not for the corruption in insurance and the litigation driven methods of medicine these days.


6 posted on 01/18/2007 1:05:28 PM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada! (Steve's won my vote in the meantime))
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The insurance racket over the past 40 years is a perfect example of how well fear-marketing works.


7 posted on 01/18/2007 1:09:44 PM PST by JennysCool (If your attitude's appalling, there's a latitude that's calling)
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Who is John Galt?

I am putting that on the back window of my Scion xBox, in 1.5" lettering.

I have so had it with our looters culture.


9 posted on 01/18/2007 1:15:29 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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Health insurance is not a right UNLESS you are an illegal alien then you get free medical care. Average ER waiting room time in Tucson - 5 hours. If you go to one you see very quickly why. If you want free healthcare denounce your American citizenship.


10 posted on 01/18/2007 1:18:13 PM PST by sasafras (("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom)
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Ping!

Another good one.


13 posted on 01/18/2007 1:28:11 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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Ya gotta love the Rand people...


14 posted on 01/18/2007 1:38:53 PM PST by Cheesel ("To be conservative at 20 is heartless and to be a liberal at 60 is plain idiocy." Winston Churchill)
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Now our only rights, the American viewpoint continues, are the rights to life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness. That's all.

I call BS.

What the Declaration of Independance says is:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

The Declaration of Independance uses the phrase "among these are", not "these are limited to".

False premise to base this argument on.

16 posted on 01/18/2007 1:59:30 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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Bookmark.


19 posted on 01/18/2007 2:05:59 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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The Objectivists are right on principle but deaf to political reality. People don't like extreme selfishness embodied as a philosophy of life.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

20 posted on 01/18/2007 2:06:24 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Bookmark for later printing.


28 posted on 01/18/2007 2:42:32 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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C'mom now Piekoff, everyone knows we are endowed by our Creator with the inalienable right to insurance/medical coverage. It's right in that there Constitution thingy. It's in the "among these" clause. (Read the finer print underneath the fine print, in the penumbra clause.) /sarcasm


29 posted on 01/18/2007 2:53:42 PM PST by PGalt
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One group receiving the unearned and undeserved from another group forced to provide it. Only leftist and liberal statists could approve of such coercive altruistic and collectivistic ideas.
30 posted on 01/18/2007 2:58:25 PM PST by mjp
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Hey! Look what I found! A link to something positive so we can do something besides grumble!!!
34 posted on 01/19/2007 8:44:34 AM PST by SierraWasp (There is no one else in the hollow "center" except CA's celebrity collectivist compellinator!!!)
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Free access to somebody else's earnings for any reason is not a right. Including for health insurance.


56 posted on 01/19/2007 3:44:53 PM PST by meyer (Bring back the Contract with America and you'll bring back the Republican majority.)
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Thanks calcowgirl...this is an oldie, but a goodie. It gets posted here about every 6 months or so (I've posted it previously myself). It deserves reposting.

I've said this on other threads of this ilk....as a physician I believe I do, like Peikoff notes, have a moral obligation to stand against the federalization of the health care system, and voice that objection. Usually it falls on deaf ears.

I'm approaching 50 and have practiced medicine for about 20 years. I've managed to save a pretty good chunk for retirement (I'd like to save more), and in 4 years I'll have both kids out of college...an early retirement is not out of the question.

People who think that all the MD's etc are just going to fall in line with whatever is thrown out there are mistaken.


61 posted on 01/19/2007 3:55:04 PM PST by Ethrane ("semper consolar")
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