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Health Insurance is Not a "Right"
Front Page Magazine ^ | January 18, 2007 | Leonard Peikoff

Posted on 01/18/2007 12:36:22 PM PST by calcowgirl

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1 posted on 01/18/2007 12:36:27 PM PST by calcowgirl
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2 posted on 01/18/2007 12:39:18 PM PST by Gritty (Rule by the people is threatened if they are unable to gain a plausible grip on reality-Tony Blankle)
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To take one more example: the right to the pursuit of happiness is precisely that: the right to the pursuit--to a certain type of action on your part and its result--not to any guarantee that other people will make you happy or even try to do so. Otherwise, there would be no liberty in the country: if your mere desire for something, anything, imposes a duty on other people to satisfy you, then they have no choice in their lives, no say in what they do, they have no liberty, they cannot pursue their happiness. Your "right" to happiness at their expense means that they become rightless serfs, i.e., your slaves. Your right to anything at others' expense means that they become rightless.
3 posted on 01/18/2007 12:47:35 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather.)
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I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)

We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.
Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826), letter to Samuel Kercheval, July 12, 1816

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)


4 posted on 01/18/2007 12:57:48 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: calcowgirl

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke today warned lawmakers to immediately address Social Security and Medicare reforms.


5 posted on 01/18/2007 1:01:17 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: calcowgirl

I might agree if not for the corruption in insurance and the litigation driven methods of medicine these days.


6 posted on 01/18/2007 1:05:28 PM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada! (Steve's won my vote in the meantime))
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To: calcowgirl

The insurance racket over the past 40 years is a perfect example of how well fear-marketing works.


7 posted on 01/18/2007 1:09:44 PM PST by JennysCool (If your attitude's appalling, there's a latitude that's calling)
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To: timsbella

"I might agree if not for the corruption in insurance and the litigation driven methods of medicine these days"


So you agree with socialized medicine?


8 posted on 01/18/2007 1:10:20 PM PST by rwh
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To: calcowgirl

Who is John Galt?

I am putting that on the back window of my Scion xBox, in 1.5" lettering.

I have so had it with our looters culture.


9 posted on 01/18/2007 1:15:29 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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Health insurance is not a right UNLESS you are an illegal alien then you get free medical care. Average ER waiting room time in Tucson - 5 hours. If you go to one you see very quickly why. If you want free healthcare denounce your American citizenship.


10 posted on 01/18/2007 1:18:13 PM PST by sasafras (("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Great quotes!


11 posted on 01/18/2007 1:27:02 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: rwh

Forgive me for I am a Canadian (and I work in the field). When you crunch the numbers the percentage of GDP we pay on healthcare is far lower than the US (check out OECD stats). We also have a lower rate of infant mortality, greater longevity, and although "wait times" dominate the news, access to care is still universal. Proactive care and health education are very high.

That being said, medicare was introduced to protect those with catastrophic illness. It's gone way to far in its coverage and mandate. The pendulum needs to shift back to where basic care is available, catastrophic and chronic care are focal, and some "pay in" is made so that the public values it and is far less likely to abuse it.

Between health care administration costs, insurance administration, litigation and malpractice fees, no one in the US is getting a square deal. Someone has to come in and clean up - the gov't is the only one with the power to do this.


12 posted on 01/18/2007 1:27:42 PM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada! (Steve's won my vote in the meantime))
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Ping!

Another good one.


13 posted on 01/18/2007 1:28:11 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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Ya gotta love the Rand people...


14 posted on 01/18/2007 1:38:53 PM PST by Cheesel ("To be conservative at 20 is heartless and to be a liberal at 60 is plain idiocy." Winston Churchill)
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To: sasafras

I hear that, I got into a car accident with my family enroute to Tucson from Ft. Huachuca, I waited from about 7:30 to roughly 2 PM before the Doctor ever saw me, this was with a gash in my arm that required 18 stitches.


15 posted on 01/18/2007 1:54:05 PM PST by PVT4evr (Those who stand for nothing will fall for anything.)
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Now our only rights, the American viewpoint continues, are the rights to life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness. That's all.

I call BS.

What the Declaration of Independance says is:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

The Declaration of Independance uses the phrase "among these are", not "these are limited to".

False premise to base this argument on.

16 posted on 01/18/2007 1:59:30 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: timsbella

No joke, my deductable went in 2 years from 500 to $1500 and jumped 18% come Feb. to $2,500. I am so angry I can't stand it. I am in good health and hardly met my $500 much less a $2,500 deductable.


17 posted on 01/18/2007 2:01:22 PM PST by Bitsy
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Good job today, guys. Just in skimming I've found at least four or five highly philosophical and well-reasoned posts with intelligent discussion. Good stuff.


18 posted on 01/18/2007 2:04:14 PM PST by Loyolas Mattman
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To: calcowgirl

Bookmark.


19 posted on 01/18/2007 2:05:59 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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The Objectivists are right on principle but deaf to political reality. People don't like extreme selfishness embodied as a philosophy of life.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

20 posted on 01/18/2007 2:06:24 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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