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To: DreamsofPolycarp
Either you are not paying attention, you do not understand the underlying issue, or you choose not to. You do not live here, you seem to think that the state somehow created this, and you think that doing nothing will somehow fix it.

I do not have all the answers. I never pretended to. But something, even the wrong thing, is preferable to what is now happening.

We are done here.

209 posted on 01/19/2007 10:32:37 AM PST by Mr. Quarterpanel (I am not an actor, but I play one on TV)
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To: Mr. Quarterpanel
It is ok if we are done, but you may not misrepresent what I say, then walk away and expect me to just nod blankely and say "uh huh." I am not saying "do nothing." I (naive fool that I am) believe in FREEDOM in markets. We could try that, rather than MORE state intervention. For example, I have lived in Texas, Florida, and Oklahoma, three of the states with the HIGHEST insurance rates in the nation. The risks are high, but the companies can charge enough to have a "flat" underwriting balance in Texas and Oklahoma. Lots of companies to bid for the business, and the rates are appropriate for the risk. In Florida, you do not have this situation because of rate caps, and companies are simply saying "We can't make money here and we are not charities. Let us charge what we need to stay solvent, or we leave." The state is saying "you are lying and bluffing." 1) First of all. This is not the state's responsibility.
2) Second if the environment is really so peachy and profit laden, then why are other insurors leaping to take up the slack.(Service Insurance, for example is BASED in Florida but won't write business there)? Could it be that they know better than the state and the Freepers?

The state is telling them they have to either eat the loss (or quit lying) if they want to sell auto insurance there. Auto insurance in FL is a big and profitable plum, so the revenue stream may be worth it. In the long run, though, the people will be WORSE off by state intervention. They always are.

211 posted on 01/19/2007 11:15:46 AM PST by DreamsofPolycarp
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To: Mr. Quarterpanel
One more quick observation, then I have to go and enslave the masses [grin].

In several states, individuals are free to pool and "self insure" by forming a "mutual" insurance company. For example, in North Carolina, the assets requirement is only $100,000 to form a Mutual Insurance company. If a group of people, say 20 families, can come up with 5 thousand dollars apiece, then they can "self insure" as long as the policies meed the state requirements. Everybody sticks 5 grand in the pot, everyone pays a thou a year, and any "profits" go back to the stockholders (by definition in a mutual company, it is the policyholders). So, why are there not thousands of little companies springing up in NC, OH, IN and other states with similiar laws? BECAUSE THEY CANNOT COMPETE WITH THE BIG BOYS!!!! That is right. The evil exploitative insurance companies have actually driven the prices to the minimum they can afford and still be profitable (it is called "competition"). The small mutuals are actually selling out to the Allstates, the State Farms and the Nationwides of America.

However, if the markets are really as screwed up as you claim they are, there is no reason why the state legislature could not be petitioned to allow smaller insurance collectives to operate as self insurance companies. They can always buy "reinsurance" against major disasters....., the big companies already do that.

That is just ONE off the top of my head potential to alleviate the insurance pressure in Florida, and it doesn't involve the state dinking around with the markets. It just expands the field for more competition. To be fair, a bunch of smaller home/fire companies went bust in the last hurricane and could not pay their claims. They went into receivership and the big guys bought up what little assets ---future cash flow-- they had. Might be a tough regulatory nut to crack there.

212 posted on 01/19/2007 11:47:07 AM PST by DreamsofPolycarp
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To: Mr. Quarterpanel
One more quick observation, then I have to go and enslave the masses [grin].

In several states, individuals are free to pool and "self insure" by forming a "mutual" insurance company. For example, in North Carolina, the assets requirement is only $100,000 to form a Mutual Insurance company. If a group of people, say 20 families, can come up with 5 thousand dollars apiece, then they can "self insure" as long as the policies meed the state requirements. Everybody sticks 5 grand in the pot, everyone pays a thou a year, and any "profits" go back to the stockholders (by definition in a mutual company, it is the policyholders). So, why are there not thousands of little companies springing up in NC, OH, IN and other states with similiar laws? BECAUSE THEY CANNOT COMPETE WITH THE BIG BOYS!!!! That is right. The evil exploitative insurance companies have actually driven the prices to the minimum they can afford and still be profitable (it is called "competition"). The small mutuals are actually selling out to the Allstates, the State Farms and the Nationwides of America.

However, if the markets are really as screwed up as you claim they are, there is no reason why the state legislature could not be petitioned to allow smaller insurance collectives to operate as self insurance companies. They can always buy "reinsurance" against major disasters....., the big companies already do that.

That is just ONE off the top of my head potential to alleviate the insurance pressure in Florida, and it doesn't involve the state dinking around with the markets. It just expands the field for more competition. To be fair, a bunch of smaller home/fire companies went bust in the last hurricane and could not pay their claims. They went into receivership and the big guys bought up what little assets ---future cash flow-- they had. Might be a tough regulatory nut to crack there.

213 posted on 01/19/2007 11:47:13 AM PST by DreamsofPolycarp
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