[Spirochete]

Or are more just disgusted because we are tired of see us put the gloves on to later take them off and we just want to win wars the way they are supposed to be won?

We have people in charge who just can't bring themselves to pull the trigger on a Taliban funeral with heavily armed attendees.

[AID & COMFORT ALERT]

The WOT is lost.

Because the military is used as a policy tool to correct unwanted behavior and a discovery lab for social engineering.

[jveritas]

The WOT is lost

That is exactly the defeatism that I was talking about. You just gave aid and comfort to the enemy by saying the War on Terror is lost.

[politicalwit]

The WOT is lost.

The War on Terror isn't lost, however it is not winnable. The War on Terror is similiar to the War on Poverty and the War on Drugs...open-ended with no real long term goals to end anything.

50 years from now we will still be funding the War on Terror, the War on Poverty and the War on Drugs.

[AliVeritas]

There's your example.

I'm sure when troops read that, their morale boosts.
Especially the gold star parents.

[Spirochete]

My remarks have been misconstrued. I want us to win, but as I pointed out with the Taliban Funeral debacle, we will not win with the current command's mindset (PC/gentlemanly warfare). As it stands now, the WOT is lost. I wish it weren't so.

[Star Traveler]

You said -- "The WOT is lost."

That's because it is a stupid war. Much better to be a war on Islam -- where the *idealogy* for all the terrorist attacks come from. Destroy the religion and you destroy the terrorists.

Having a WOT is like having a "war on guns" to put the criminals out of business.

Regards,
Star Traveler

[nopardons]

You just outed yourself....defeatist.