Unfortunately, Iraq will be to us what Afganistan was to the Soviets. That's not defeatist. It becomes more of a reality daily. The only difference is the terrain in Iraq where the problems are is flat instead of being full of mountains.
That is not reality it is defeatism and you sir just provided aid and comfort to the terrorists by uttering such a statement. You exactly fit the profile of people that I mentioned in the thread.
There is no comparison!
You seem to forget who defeated the Soviets in Afghanistan; "our" proxies did. Without the stingers, the cash and intelligence from the CIA I don't think the Soviets would have been kicked out.