Your wrong. Make whatever claims you wish based upon whatever bullcrap you want. You are wrong. This has been going for only 3 years. That is a very short period for what is required. It is the lack of endurance and feckless lack of fidelity that folk like you demonstrate that constantly feeds the will of our enemy.
You are the person that opened up the issue of this being all about political agenda in me wanting to protect GWB's "legacy". It is you who are given over to the propaganda of the enemy in support of your own stated agenda.
Much has been accomplished in Iraq and each cycle of events brings us closer to having it under control and functional.
Your lack of resolve is the weakness and gangrenous corruption that our enemy counts on for their own victory. They have stated as much repeatedly.
You throw out "nation building" as if there's any other option except to rebuild what is destroyed, regardless of who or how or when it got destroyed. That entire line of argument is a deconstructionist deceit bought into by morons and idiots and spewed by regurgitating propagandists.
You and all like you are playing right into the same pattern that forced us into accepting defeat at the hands of enemy propagandists in the '70s.
Your filthy ilk are working to bring about the same wholesale slaughter of innocents and set another round of events in motion that will punish us for decades to come.
Weakness, confusion, ignorance, idiocy, cowardice, maliciousness, it does not matter why.
Those who allow themselves to become compromised by the enemy are the enemy. Zero degree of separation.
"Your wrong. Make whatever claims you wish based upon whatever bullcrap you want. You are wrong. This has been going for only 3 years."
We actually agree about victory, we only disagree on the definition - your non-hysterical words align with GWB's definition, not the one that matters militarily - but your rhetoric and insults more closely match as if you believe the military definition, so I think you need to decide whether you really want to win or not.
Other than that, you spew like a sewer-hole with childish invectives, but you continue to repeat the same line. Any reasonable assessment of the situation will conclude that Iraq will be more-or-less stable until we leave, not one day more. The only question is will we EVER leave.
Now see if you can stick to rational discourse.....debate on this issue should not be verboten as you would like it to be.