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Video of Border Patrol Agents Turning Themselves in
KVIA ^ | 01/17/07

Posted on 01/17/2007 4:43:28 PM PST by Ladycalif

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To: neverhillorat
I should have known that its the US Attorneys that lie, not the Border Patrolmen that were caught in several lies.

I never stated that US Attorneys lie. You never stated what exactly the agents lied about, therefore I can't address this.

I should have also figured out that the President was bored one afternoon and decided he wanted to add some spice to his life and screw up two innocent Border Patrolmen.

I don't think the Pres has anything to do with this.

Please help with this, after shooting the Illegal in the back/butt, why didn`t the BP agents walk over and arrest the man.

According to the US Attorney's office the smuggler continued to run into Mexico. US Law Enforcement Officers can not pursue criminals into Mexico.

According to them, he was knocked to the ground by one of their rounds, was alone, and there were two of them? Why no arrest? Doesn`t pass the smell test.

According to US Attorney Johnny Sutton's press release, Aldrete the smuggler was not knocked down, which is impossible by bullets. Aldrete was allegedly shot by the Agents and then continued to run into Mexico.

81 posted on 01/18/2007 11:53:05 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: highball

You didn't answer my question. I thought you might, but you didn't. You don't know for sure these agents are dirty. The only thing you know is what you are told.


82 posted on 01/18/2007 11:57:58 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: Ajnin
Every DA I ever 'presented' a shooting case to, be it officer involved or civilian, the critical question was always "what was the shooters state of mind". Then is the evidence consistent with that state of mind, i.e. "I shot the 7-11 clerk (behind the counter) because he insulted my tattoos". (Ya I actually heard that once).

I guess it would led to motive, but any attorney defending the shooter will point out that self defense is a basic right in this country, so prosecution has to be perpared, and close that door

That would make a heck of a difference as to Murder or Manslaughter or even not filing at all.

There's a lot of questions as to why they just didn't say "I was in fear of being killed by this guy". Maybe the federal form for use of force is not user friendly?

But everything I've read tells me the shooting has no intention to deliberately violate the law. That being the case, their failure to follow administrative policy calls for an administrative punishment, i.e. days off without pay.

But the thing that bothers me most is the smugglers conduct. 1. He's already taken a bullet in rear, yet continues to be the scroat maggot that he is and still smuggle. 2. Intercepting each others loads and killing the mules is very common. In fact that part of Mexico is under going a major war between the various drug lords that is spilling into the USA. So it's reasonable to assume this maggot was armed.

3. Why doesn't the smugglers boss whack him for (a) Losing a valuable load. (b) Taking to federal investigators. Sounds like the scroat's boss has a wire into the US Attorneys Office.

4. Why does the boss entrust this loser with another load, this time 1,000 pounds. 5. The scroat is caught again and the load is lost. 6. The Jeffe of this organization don't whack him for losing a second time?

7. The scroat is again given an out for a serious felony? I know the indictment was sealed, but was the BP's jury told about the second arrest and indictment?

83 posted on 01/19/2007 12:40:01 AM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Ajnin
You didn't answer my question. I thought you might, but you didn't. You don't know for sure these agents are dirty. The only thing you know is what you are told.

Are you saying that they filed a full and complete report on the incident, and have never changed their story?

If not, then they lied. And if cops lie, then they have betrayed their badge and don't deserve our support.

It's such a hard job, and such an important one, that we cannot stand anything less than honest men in it. We need them too much.

84 posted on 01/19/2007 6:49:54 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Ajnin
Bullets can`t knock the recipient down, well, I have an elk that keeps hanging his head on my wall that might not agree with you. I know this is frustrating and, when I first heard about it, I didn`t understand it. But, the thing that changed my mind is the fact that the two agents tried to cover it up. They knew that they blew it. The other thing that got me was the attack on the US Attorney and the Judge, who, if they were out of line, would be grounds for a mistrial, but, instead of that, everybody is screaming for a pardon. Innocent guys don`t want pardons, they want to clear their names. Wouldn`t you?
85 posted on 01/19/2007 10:39:47 AM PST by neverhillorat (IF THE RATS WIN, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: Centurion2000

Illegal aliens are not under the jurisdiction of any state.


86 posted on 01/19/2007 11:26:52 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: neverhillorat
Sorry, but the Supremes have ruled that once you are in the country, a person is covered by our laws. That`s why we are keeping the terrorists we caught in Afghanistan at Gitmo and why those fleeing Castro can be sent back if they don`t touch our shores. Illegals can be deported, but, while they are in the US, they are covered. That isn`t written into the Constitution but, like so many other things, the Courts have ruled its implied.

The Supremes under the Kelo case have also ruled that we have no right to property as long as some other entity can provide more taxes to the government with the procurement of our poperty. Are they right? Does the Contitution state that we have to give our property to any private citizen that wants it because they claim to be able to provide more tax revenue?

87 posted on 01/19/2007 11:37:13 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: Ajnin

Ok, the Supremes got one wrong,then according to your logic,every other thing they ruled on was wrong?


88 posted on 01/20/2007 7:49:34 PM PST by neverhillorat (IF THE RATS WIN, WE ALL LOSE)
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