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Were all the pundits wrong about Hillary's strength?
Reason Online, Rasmussen Reports ^ | 01.17.07 | David Weigel, Chris Reed

Posted on 01/17/2007 4:10:59 PM PST by Mia T

Were all the pundits wrong about Hillary's strength?

by Chris Reed at January 17, 2007 10:50 AM


For years, the assumption has been nearly universal that Hillary Clinton would have an easy path to the 2008 Dem nomination. She had the money, the establishment support and the great goodwill among Democrats for the first Clinton administration going for her.

Well, maybe everyone was wrong. Reason Online's David Weigel makes the case:

 

Reason Magazine

Anyone But Hillary

 

 Rasmussen Reports has been polling the Democratic field, and today they measure the strength of Hillary Clinton's presidential bid: She's down to 22 percent support in the primary and fading fast.

That's one poll with a sizable (5 percent) margin of error, but it's an incredibly weak showing for Clinton.

Illinois Senator Barack Obama (D) formally announced his plans to run for President and instantly finds himself near the top of the heap. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of 401 Likely Democratic Primary Voters finds that 22% favor New York Senator Hillary Clinton (D) while 21% prefer Obama. Obama has consistently been in second place in several Rasmussen Reports polls, but this is the first time he has been in a virtual tie with the former First Lady.

John Edwards polls at 15 percent; he's up 6 since the last poll, Obama's up 4. Hillary is down 12 points from the last poll in early December.

How sad is this for Clinton? In 1999 we (blessedly) didn't start the presidential race this early, but Texas Gov. George Bush was coming in around
40 percent support in Republican primary polls. A poll taken by Opinion Research Corporation (CNN's pollster, now that Gallup's split off from the network) in Jan 6-11, 1999, had Bush at 40 percent, Elizabeth Dole at 22 percent, Jack Kemp at 8, and a bunch of single-digiters including Dan Quayle and some guy named John McCain. Most Republicans had heard of Bush (or thought he was his dad) and kind of liked him. Every Democrat knows who Hillary Clinton is, and almost 4/5 of them are looking for another candidate. It's a blow to the vaunted "support the war, don't support Grand Theft Auto" playbook.

The punchline: This poll was taken before Obama announced he was in the race.

I would add that Rasmussen Reports, while derided in some establishment media circles as an unworthy upstart, had a pretty darn good track record in the 2000 and 2004 presidential campaigns.



HANGING HILLARY: ClintoNNpolls fraud
How the clintons are handling the hillary dud factor 6

A FREE REPUBLIC EXCLUSIVE by Howlin1

by Mia T, 01.17.07










n 12 January, in a FreeRepublic.com exclusive, Howlin broke the story of incipient clinton-CNN presidential polling fraud1 and here it is five days later and nothing. No reporting of it anywhere by old media.

Figures.

To old media, this sort of thing is not news.

It's business.

As usual.

In the weeks and months ahead, watch for the clintons to become increasingly desperate, (which means: watch for their corruption to become increasingly flagrant).

Obama-mania, fueled primarily by the hillary dud factor, is spoiling the clintons' plans. Obama's charisma and blank slate are the perfect antidote to hillary's repulsiveness and baggage.

So what's a ruthless power-hungry couple to do?

Well, the one thing they must do -- and do quickly -- is to get control of the presidential polling mechanism. The clintons must manufacture polls that will convince the primary voters not to believe their lying eyes.



MORE 'HILLARY DUD' MITIGATION:

THE 'MATERNALIZATION' OF HILLARY
(CLINTON MACHINE DUMPS THATCHER FOR 'MOTHER')

HOW THE CLINTONS ARE HANDLING THE HILLARY DUD FACTOR 5

SEX, LIES AND SOCK PUPPETS:
HOW THE CLINTONS ARE HANDLING THE HILLARY DUD FACTOR 4

THREE WOMEN AND A FUNERAL:
HOW THE CLINTONS ARE HANDLING THE HILLARY DUD FACTOR 3

REINVENTING HILLARY... AGAIN
(clinton machine dumps Geena Davis for Margaret Thatcher)
HOW THE CLINTONS ARE HANDLING THE HILLARY DUD FACTOR 2

SCHEMA PINOCCHIO
HOW THE CLINTONS ARE HANDLING THE HILLARY DUD FACTOR




P.S. Listen to the husband. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of the missus.... Hmmm....



COPYRIGHT MIA T 2007





FR EXCLUSIVE - CNN hires Clinton-controlled Opinion Research Corp. for 2008 Presidential Polling

FreeRepublic.com Exclusive | January 12, 2007

by Howlin
Posted on 01/12/2007 3:44:08 PM EST


Today CNN announced that "The CNN Poll will become the CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll" -

Press release - CNN and Opinion Research Announce Formal Polling Partnership

PRINCETON, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Opinion Research Corporation, a leading provider of global market research and consulting services, today announced the establishment of a formal polling partnership with CNN, one of the world's most respected and trusted sources for news and information. The CNN Poll will become the CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll.

"Opinion Research Corporation's reputation for independent, objective analysis and its excellent reputation in the industry make the firm the ideal polling partner for CNN," said Sam Feist, CNN's Political Director. "As the network gears up to offer the most in-depth and expansive coverage of the 2008 election, Opinion Research Corporation will be a key part of giving viewers the accurate and relevant information they demand to help them make decisions."

Opinion Research Corp. website - www.opinionresearch.com

Based on the history of the people who recently acquired Opinion Research Corp., we believe that the true purpose of the CNN/Opinion Research partnership is to rig the poll results to benefit Hillary Clinton in her 2008 presidential campaign.

Opinion Research was purchased last year by InfoUSA. InfoUSA is controlled by a hard-core Clintonista named Vinod Gupta.

Gupta is a major Clinton/DNC donor and fundraiser, and Lincoln Bedroom guest. He has recently spent large sums to establish these Clinton-worship centers in India -

The Bill Clinton Science and Technology Center

Gochar Intermediate College, Rampur Maniharan

The Center was founded to help Scientists, Engineers and Doctors better perform their duties in a professional manner and be a part of the process of technological advancement. The campus covers more than 10 acres and is home to Physics, Biology, Chemistry and Agricultural Labs and a Computer Science Center. It is Vinod's desire that some of those who study at the WJCST Center gain admission to medical and engineering colleges.

The Hillary Rodham Clinton Mass Communication Center

Having provided a basic curriculum at the Women's Polytechnic and Science Center, Vinod now has bigger plans to transform the lives of young men and women. This new center will include training in Journalism, Communications, Public Relations, Media Management, Television Presentation/Anchoring and Web Design.

Gupta manipulated InfoUSA's acquisition of Opinion Research to his personal benefit last year by purchasing shares in Opinion Research, then using his position as chairman of InfoUSA to orchestrate the acquisition of O.R.C. at a nearly 100% premium - thus driving up the value of his O.R.C. shares at the expense of his IUSA shareholders. This sleazy transaction was described last year in a New York Times article

Due to adverse publicity during an IUSA proxy battle last year, Gupta removed his personal web site (www.vingupta.com) which contained several photos of him getting cozy with the Clintons.

We have obtained several photos of Gupta getting hot and sweaty with the Clintons from his deleted web site -

Given the close personal and financial ties between the man who controls Opinion Research Corp. and the Clintons, we believe that the CNN/Opinion Research polling results are hopelessly tainted and intended to benefit Hillary Clinton's presidential bid. CNN either failed to perform due diligence on their partner, or they are complicit in this polling sham.


THE DECLINE OF HILLARY CLINTON: THE DYNAMICS
(SHE HAS ONLY ONE WAY TO GO. AND IT ISN'T UP.)


THE POLITICS OF DUMPING HILLARY


'HILLARY'S BIGGEST PROBLEM... SHE'S OLD NEWS'


THE ABSURDITY OF HILLARY
(What the media and Dick Morris aren't telling us about Obama-clinton numbers.)



TONGUE-IN-CHEEK WARNING ABOUT CLINTON OVAL-OFFICE FELLATION ACTUALIZED
SPELLS TROUBLE AHEAD FOR HILLARY
(Were the clintons blackmailed by Russia?)


HILLARY ON THE COUCH
IS MISSUS CLINTON MENTALLY FIT?



THE 'MATERNALIZATION' OF HILLARY
(CLINTON MACHINE DUMPS THATCHER FOR 'MOTHER')

HOW THE CLINTONS ARE HANDLING THE HILLARY DUD FACTOR 5


HILLARY "Zelig" CLINTON: WHEN A CONGENITAL LIAR'S RUTHLESS AMBITION EXCEEDS HER ABILITY


THE ACCIDENTAL APTNESS OF MISSUS CLINTON'S 'PRESIDENTIAL' MAKEOVER


HILLARY CLINTON DONS THATCHER GETUP (new proof!) BUT--oops!--EVOKES THE WRONG MARGARET


A HILLARY 'LANDSLIDE'??? NOT SO FAST, MISSUS CLINTON....


WILL HILLARY CLINTON RUN?
COMBINATORIAL GAME THEORY MAY PROVIDE THE ANSWER



FACTORING HILLARY: WHY WE MUST DUMP MISSUS CLINTON NOW


HILLARY CLINTON THREATENED JUANITA BROADDRICK 2 WEEKS AFTER BILL CLINTON RAPED HER (VIDEO)


FOWL AFTERTASTE
(why we must choose our turkeys with a tad more forethought)


TOP 10 REASONS TO DUMP HILLARY CLINTON ON NOVEMBER 7
(And she thinks New Yorkers should return her to office why?)



HILLARY 'the smartest woman in the world' CLINTON USED GYP SHEETS IN DEBATE WITH SPENCER AND BOMBED ANYWAY


HILLARY'S PLANS: A DEBATE VIGNETTE





CARVILLE AGITPROP + THE CLINTON JACKBOOT
'THE POWER OF HILLARY': THE TITLE



CARVILLE'S 'Clinton is electable! Clear the way!' BATTLE CRY SPELLS TROUBLE FOR HILLARY


Nina Burleigh: Do the Right Thing, Hillary


'HIATUS' FOR HILLARY?


HILLARY'S EXPOSED LEFT FLANK 'SCARES THE HORSES' (VIDEO)



IS REUTERS SENDING A MESSAGE ABOUT A COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF HILLARY?



ON REJIGGING GALLUP'S LOSING NUMBERS FOR HILLARY
THE ALTERNATE UNIVERSE OF ANNE KORNBLUT



HEAR CHRIS MATTHEWS + MAUREEN DOWD DEVOUR HILLARY


THE DANGER OF RUNNING VICARIOUSLY
Bill O'Reilly chews up and spits out the hillary clinton candidacy
(clip included)


SEE VIDEO: "HILLARY IS 'DOOMED'" (more 'plantation' fallout)


SEX, LIES AND SOCK PUPPETS:
HOW THE CLINTONS ARE HANDLING THE HILLARY DUD FACTOR
4


THREE WOMEN AND A FUNERAL:
HOW THE CLINTONS ARE HANDLING THE HILLARY DUD FACTOR
3


REINVENTING HILLARY... AGAIN
(clinton machine dumps Geena Davis for Margaret Thatcher)
how the clintons are handling the hillary dud factor2


SCHEMA PINOCCHIO
how the clintons are handling the hillary dud factor


HEAR SUSAN ESTRICH: hillary plays 'the victim' for votes


ON ICE: WM. JEFFERSON'S FREEZER vs. THE WM. JEFFERSON CLINTONS' SWISS ACCOUNTS


How To Get Rich Quick In Shady Land Deals Like Harry Reid and hillary clinton


THE DRAMATIC INCREASE IN HILLARY CLINTON'S DISCLOSED ASSETS: An Alternative Theory


WHEN CATTLE FUTURES ARE THE FUTURE:
HILLARY CLINTON'S COW TRADES AS PROGNOSTIC




THE RUBES' GOLDBERG MACHINE
A STATE OF PERPETUAL CLINTON BEGGARY




HILLARY REMEMBERS


HILLARY DOES NOT RECALL, DOES NOT REMEMBER, HAS NO MEMORY, HAS NO RECOLLECTION, BUT DOES NOT BELIEVE SHE SAID IT BECAUSE SHE WOULD HAVE REMEMBERED IF SHE DID.


'REFUSAL TO LEVEL WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE'... IS HILLARY 'KNOWNOTHING VICTIM' CLINTON'S MIDDLE NAME

Sen. 'KnowNothing Victim' Clinton Holds News Conference
EFFECTIVELY PLEADS 5th BY INVOKING SPOUSAL PRIVILEGE



HILLARY FLUNKED D.C. BAR EXAM
"the smartest woman in the world" sought less competitive venue


HILLARY!?? WHAT IS THIS MORIBUND LOSER DOING IN THE POLITICAL ARENA, ANYWAY? (bill's bud explains)




COPYRIGHT MIA T 2007



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: clinton; corruption; dud; electionpresident; elections; hillary; shewhomustnotbenamed; voldemort
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To: Mia T
Mia, I loved your bashing of Hitlerys "Gulping for air" chapter from her book...Here is my response when that abomination of a book came out in `03. Hitlery wants to talk fantasy? Then I say let`s go all the way baby!

JUNE 10, 2003

EXCLUSIVE

The initial draft that was rejected for Hitlery Rodhams new book "Living history"

In this exclsuive report, Screamname "The Ultimate Reporter" has obtained the initial draft from Hitlery Clintons new book "Living history". This initial draft was to be the chapter that described the last ladys shock and outrage over learning of her husbands affair with Monica Lewinsky. Screamname "The Ultimate Reporter" has learned that it was rejected by the publisher, and by Hitlery herself after much thought after it was decided as being "too descriptive, but still brutally honest". It was therefore replaced with a more permissible version to retain Hitlerys privacy while at the same time retaining the same brutal honesty which is her trademark.

Chapter 11: Gulping for Air

The shock and outrage when William revealed his affair with Monica

itlery ran to her William in the pouring rain as she could not help herself. The conspirators had tried and tried to destroy their love, but their love was immortal, eternal and knew no bounds.

Running out naked in the rain and dense fog and through a sunny field filled with chirping bluebirds toward her knight, she embraced her William like a iron clamp..

"My love! My love!" she said as she gulped for air.

Glorious music filled the air, harps and violins swelled and swelled to a bursting crescendo and they kissed, drinking in deeply the bottomless black pit of each others souls. They were as one and nothing could ever come between them again.

William picked up his true love in his arms as Disney characters frolicked about them and flowers sprouted from Hitlerys golden sunshine hair. Angels appeared in the sky with harps and heavens light cast down upon them as her Prince carried her over the threshold of the mansion of the plantation, the servants from the taxpayers cheering as they passed.

The rain poured harder and lighting began to strike, but golden sunshine showered down echoing the beating heart of love that Hitlery had for her Prince William. It was so long since they last met and again the music swelled as they passionately embraced each other.

William manly kicked open the door of the bedroom as smoke blew out his nostrils and he threw Hitlery onto the bed that had a canopy of lace and silk.

Harps and violins played as Hitlery said..

"My William, William my love! Thy conspirators, have they no shame? Are they blind to our love? Their deceit shall never seperate our immortal flesh! We shall rule the universe of space and time and their nonsense of an intern will be all for naught."

William suddenly grew silent and turned his head from her. Hitlery saw his sudden concern and said...

"William? What is it my love?"

"Hitlery, I have something to confess" he said as he sat down on the bed.

"What is it William my love?" said Hitlery as she stared deeply into his eyes, her hand on his cheek.

"I-I..I...I..... No I cannot tell you!" he said as he dramatically turned his head away raising the back of his hand over his face. He stood up and walked towards the window, the moonlight shining on his horns.

The music was dramatic now and Hitlery could tell William was deeply concerned and she walked to him laying her hand over his and looking up into his red eyes....

"William, you know I love you! Our love knows no bounds! We shall live through this and our love will grow stronger and stronger evermore until the universe is ours and I am supreme ruler of both space time and dimension!"

Hitlery could see the anguish growing in her Williams eyes and she said lovingly....

"William, the conspirators...W-w-what they said cannot be true! Tell me William"

William did not answer and hung his head low. The music grew ever more dramatic, low and intense...

"William answer me!"

Hitlery felt her heart beat ever harder as she began to gasp for air in her innocence...

"William, I know the conspirators lied about your rape of Juanita, your affair with Gennifer, you sexual assault of Katherine, your sexual assault of the airline stewardess, your sexual assault of Paula. I know this too must also be a lie! Tell me my love..Tell me the intern is also a lie!"

William said nothing but looked into Hitlerys eyes and his eyes said all she needed to know.

Hitlery stepped back from William and felt her heart fall into the bottomless pit of her soulessness. She raised her hand to her chest as the back of her other hand rose across her mouth...

"No! .N-N-N-NOOOOOOO NOOOO..Noooo!

What are your eyes telling mine? They doth reveal unto me a truth which I cannot accept lest mine heart be savaged!" as she felt herself gulping for air as the tears began to well in her eyes!

"Nooo" she said as she slapped him across the face and then ran from the room!

William cried out to her,

"My love! I was only trying to protect you and SoHo!"

"Beygone from me, mine heart it doth crack, begone forever you betraying beast!" said Hitlery as she ran and ran! The music swelled dramatically...she felt her life and her heart sink away from her, destroyed for evermore as she ran down the stairs naked and out through the front door of the mansion and towards her magnificent white stallion, Whitewater.

She jumped on the horse and it reared on it`s hind legs, whinnied and galloped away through the golden fields of mud as tears clouded her eyes.

"No NO NO!!" she cried louder and louder as she gulped and gulped and gulped and gulped and gulped for air..

"Noooo!"

Her William had deceived her and her heart was smashed into oblivion!

Whitewater sprinted across the meadows until Hitlery made it to the top of her favorite hillside, Hill Airy, and fell into a heap, in a wad of golden hay, and she cried and cried and cried!!

"How? Why? Seems he a dove, his feathers are but borrowed say I!"

All the thoughts she could not get out of her mind! The utterly unexpected betrayal of her innocence! She continued crying as heavens light shined down upon her, and she fell asleep.

Finally after several hours, she awoke only to find her William standing over her.

"You! I never want to see you again. Begone from me cad!" she screamed.

William hung his head low, and said

"OK, My love, I don`t blame you for hating me my love. But before I go, I have one word to say to you........Senator."

Hitlery stood up and clamped herself around her William with her legs. Their love was again eternal.

Stay tuned for the next episode from Hitlery Clinton, the renowed writer of romance...Tissues included with every book


21 posted on 01/17/2007 5:31:50 PM PST by Screamname (My name is Screamname and I approve this message.)
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To: Churchillspirit
Do you think she would be forced to take a running mate with a military background?

Maybe ... but the running mate would be kept in the background just like Gore was in 1992.

There were a lot of stories in 1992 about Bill Clinton only letting Gore go to small towns in states where Clinton was sure to win. And that is exactly what Bill Clinton did.

Hillary learned everthing she knows about politics from Bill. She may not trust him but she certainly respects his political judgement and especially the way he runs campaigns.

She will run her campaign very much as Bill ran his in 1992.

In 1992 Clinton knew that he had to win some southern states so he selected a southern senator.

Hillary needs to win Florida and Ohio. She might very well select a politician from one of those two states.

The Democrats and many moderates think we are wasting our time fighting the war on terror. It has been over 5 years since we have been attacked. If we are not attacked again before the election in 2008, the voters may very well be in favor of an anti military VP.

What the polls say at the time will determine who Hillary picks for a VP.

If she is having trouble getting the nomination, look for her to pick a VP before the convention. If she has it made she will wait until she has the nomination in hand.

22 posted on 01/17/2007 5:49:47 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: joecolman

Perhaps the 12th-hour DUI hit had something to do with it.


23 posted on 01/17/2007 6:15:38 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Common Tator
Boring and corrupt or corruptible are prerequisites. But even if Obama were both, hillary would never pick him.

 


"It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important." 

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr
THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT?
clinton legacy of lynching update
by Mia T, 7.23.05






Ironically, the logic of this pronouncement by Martin Luther King would, in short order, be refuted by the reality of his own lynching. King's hope was misplaced and his reasoning was circular. The resultant rule of law relied on by King presumed an adherence to the rule of law in the first instance.

Adherence to the rule of law is not something normally associated with the clintons. Moreover, racial and ethnic disrespect, intimidation, exploitation and hate have always been a fundamental clinton tactic and the reflexive use the "N"-word and other racial and ethnic slurs, an essential element in the clinton lexicon. When the "first black president" and his wife ran Arkansas, the NAACP sued them for intimidating black voters at the polls.

The Curious Candidacy of Carol Moseley Braun:
an Extension of clinton
drag and drop and legacy of lynching
by Mia T, 2.20.03

MORE
 

24 posted on 01/17/2007 7:29:56 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

"Obama will be a mere whiff in the wind by 2008....."

Nonsense. the BEST thing for the Dems re Obama is to have a white, redneck, right wing christain conservative gun nut in the dock for his assassination.......


25 posted on 01/17/2007 7:44:49 PM PST by mo
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To: sageb1

Paging Quidam! LOL


26 posted on 01/17/2007 8:42:55 PM PST by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: Common Tator

Thanks for the common sense reminders.

I'm so thankful we've got you at full strength to help guide us through this election. ;-)


27 posted on 01/17/2007 8:44:28 PM PST by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: Mia T

And a bump before bed. ;-)


28 posted on 01/17/2007 8:48:22 PM PST by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: pinz-n-needlez

Good night :)


29 posted on 01/17/2007 9:06:28 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

Sundry graphics and hyperlinks ping


30 posted on 01/17/2007 9:08:14 PM PST by jla
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To: Mia T
"I'll be back soon"
31 posted on 01/17/2007 9:15:31 PM PST by jla
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To: jla

Sweet. Looks familiar. ;)
Not Ireland again, I presume. ;)


32 posted on 01/17/2007 9:31:34 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

No, I think one could spot one up around L.I. though.


33 posted on 01/17/2007 9:33:10 PM PST by jla
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To: Mia T
Sweet. Looks familiar. ;)

OK, reckon my prev remark was redundant.

34 posted on 01/17/2007 9:37:53 PM PST by jla
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To: Mia T

BTTT


35 posted on 01/18/2007 2:59:01 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Screamname

That was hysterical! Did you write it?


36 posted on 01/18/2007 3:20:34 AM PST by IrishRainy ((The only way BJ Clinton would have nailed bin Laden is if Ossama had been a White House intern.))
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To: IrishRainy

Yes, I wrote it when her book of fiction "Lying History" came out and the NY Post had an excerpt of her "Gulping for air" chapter. I read it and thought it was such absolute baloney, I mean what the hell is that, she says she was "gulping for air"?? lol! What is she a goldfish? So I thought I would mock it, make it even more ridiculous, and send it to the NY Post, but they wouldn`t print it. Matter of fact I sent it to a few papers but none of them would. I guess they didn`t want to feel the wrath of the Hitlery beast.


37 posted on 01/18/2007 5:23:01 AM PST by Screamname (My name is Screamname and I approve this message.)
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To: Common Tator
Thanks.

I always appreciate your views.

38 posted on 01/18/2007 6:33:20 AM PST by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: Mia T

I totally agree with you.

Great thread as usual Mia T.


39 posted on 01/18/2007 9:56:14 AM PST by Common Tator
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To: pinz-n-needlez

You are just way too kind.

Thanks for your encouraging statements.

I don't deserve them but thank you so very much for posting them.


40 posted on 01/18/2007 9:59:18 AM PST by Common Tator
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