Posted on 01/16/2007 11:36:51 PM PST by woofie
BAGHDAD, Jan. 16 — The United Nations reported Tuesday that more than 34,000 Iraqis were killed in violence last year, a figure that represents the first comprehensive annual count of civilian deaths and a vivid measure of the failure the Iraqi government and American military to provide security.
Numbers of civilian deaths have become the central indicator for the trajectory of the war and are extremely sensitive for both Iraqi and American officials. Both track the tallies but neither will release them.
This latest figure was the first attempt at hand-counting individual deaths for an entire year. It was compiled using statistics from local morgues, hospitals and municipal authorities across Iraq and was nearly three times higher than an estimate for 2006 compiled from Iraqi ministry tallies by The Associated Press earlier this month.
An Iraqi government spokesman called the count exaggerated and said it had been obtained using “incorrect sources.” Though the Iraqi government closely tracks deaths through the Interior and Health Ministries, he said it did not have a system in place for compiling a comprehensive figure.
The vast majority of Iraqi deaths are reported, at least to local authorities, so that Iraqis can obtain death certificates to prove inheritance and to receive government compensation. Some deaths still go unreported, however, and the United Nations tally may in fact be lower than the true number of deaths nationwide.
As death tolls have risen, the lack of security has become the single most important barrier to success of the American enterprise here. The numbers of dead, at least at the Baghdad morgue, are running double what they were in 2005.
Underscoring the challenge, even as the United Nations released its figure — 34,452 deaths in all — at least 70 more people were killed when a series of ....
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The UN is so helpful
Violent crime is rising in America. When will the UN tally those numbers and blame the war?
The NYT is a totally unreliable source of anything.
The UN is an abomination and a disgrace.
Yes, but note that even if the UN figure is correct and even if it had been constant ever since the start of the Iraq operation, this figure is way way lower than the Lancet figure of 650 000 that is trumpeted by every left-wing moonbat around.
The toll includes refugees who die of hunger and disease More than 200,000 people have died in Sudan's Darfur conflict, according to a new scientific study.
US researchers writing in the peer-reviewed journal Science say that their figures are the most compelling and persuasive estimate to date.
About 160,000 people have died in Chechnya in the two armed conflicts over the past decade, Chechen State Council chairman Taus Dzhabrailov said Monday, Interfax reported.
Dzhabrailov said the figure included civilians and servicemen and that ethnic Chechens made up 30,000 to 40,000 of the deaths.
I did not realize that.
Regardless, the NYSlimes and the abomination, aka the UN, are not credible sources for the time of day, let alone anything serious.
Meaning exactly what? Pray tell.
Is one a greater fool than the other?
And then, so what?
Do either play any relevant role in any part of the eventual outcomes?
Why are we permitting noisome factions the priviledge of irresponsible commentary in these affairs? When did left-wing "Moon Bats" get awarded a place at the table?
We certainly will not stop their mindless chatter but we certainly have little to gain in acknowledging and granting them any role other than sponsors of slaughter.
Here's a link to a story about the first study (released just before the Presidential election in 2004):
http://www.slate.com/id/2108887/
And here's a link to a story about the second "study" (released just before the midterm elections in 2006):
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/10/AR2006101001442.html
Note that the first "study" estimated about 100,000 deaths; while the second (just 2 years later) estimated 600,000 deaths. Apparently gross exaggeration wasn't enough -- unbounded hyperbole was deemed necessary. You'll still hear useful idiots quoting these absurd figures -- even though they are several times higher than even the UN estimates.
And, getting out of bed in the morning can be hazardous to your health...
Not only that but death figures are inherently bad stats.
I am willing to bet the mortality rate for Iraq to be 100% of the current population over the next 100 years. Genocide = Gerationalocide.
BTW, I just looked at the obits in the Sacbee and we are having a quagmire here.
And both released just before the elections. Pathetic.
Do either play any relevant role in any part of the eventual outcomes?
Unfortunately yes. The Islamists are well aware that the only way for them to win the war is to win via the Western media.
Why are we permitting noisome factions the priviledge of irresponsible commentary in these affairs? When did left-wing "Moon Bats" get awarded a place at the table?
Sigh. I don't know - they shouldn't be no question about it - but they seem to be.
16,273 deaths reported in Iraq in 2006 (44.7 average deaths per day, not 100)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1761216/posts
About 1,000 Americans died. Sort of rebuts the libs' repeated ranting about how the Iraqis are making us do all the work.
Wonderful. Now I need to hear about US soldiers killing all those poor people. When I point out that many civilians are dying due to INSURGENTS, they'll just say that's our fault.
I want them to go up to soldiers who fought/are fighting over there and say, you're horrible murderers! The trouble is, I don't really want them to, because where a sane person would realize, shoot, I'm wrong, they'd actually do it.
Iraq has a population of 28,807, 000 and 34,452 "killed in violence." I calculate that as a "killed in violence" rate of 119.6 per 100,000.
Can someone check my math?
I always avoid Sacramento for that reason
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