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Border agents sent to prison
WorldNetDaily ^ | January 17, 2007 | Art Moore

Posted on 01/16/2007 11:00:57 PM PST by Mr. Mojo

Angry Republican congressman calls President Bush 'disgrace'

Amid protests and a flurry of last-minute efforts by congressmen, two border patrol agents are scheduled today to begin long prison sentences for shooting and wounding a Mexican drug smuggler who was given immunity to testify against them.

In an interview with WND, an angry Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., called President Bush a "disgrace" for refusing to pardon Jose Alonso Compean and Ignacio Ramos, who were sentenced to 12 years and 11 years, respectively, in October. With hopes for a presidential pardon dwindling, the lawmakers had requested that Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez assist in a motion to keep the agents free on bond during the appeals process. But late yesterday, U.S. District Judge Kathleen Cardone in El Paso, Texas, ruled the men must surrender to federal marshals at 2 p.m. Central Time today.

"This is the worst betrayal of American defenders I have ever seen," Rohrabacher said of the president. "It's shameful this was done by someone who is in the Republican Party. He obviously thinks more about his agreements with Mexico than the lives of American people and backing up his defenders."

The California lawmaker charged the Bush administration has been playing a "cruel game." Initially, he said, officials insisted the agents could not be pardoned because they had not filled out the proper paperwork. But Rohrabacher told WND the White House did not explain to the public that the agents were being required – without justification, he contended – to first admit guilt.

Then, last Friday, presidential press secretary Tony Snow addressed the issue for the first time, arguing that prior to the shooting, the agents did not know if the smuggler, Osbaldo Aldrete-Davila, was an illegal, and they were unaware he had about 750 pounds of marijuana.

Compean and Ramos say the smuggler had a gun, but no weapon was found.

The agents, Snow said, "had received arms training the day before; that said, if you have an incident like this, you must preserve the evidence and you must report it promptly."

"Instead," Snow continued, "according to court documents, they went around and picked up the shell casings. Furthermore, they asked one of their colleagues also to help pick up shell casings. They disposed of them."

Rohrabacher argues that if the men did anything wrong, they should have simply received a reprimand, but instead they are being placed in the general prison population among hardened criminals where their lives may be at risk.

Ramos' attorney, Mary Stillinger, told the El Paso Times the men, both married with young children, may have to spend several weeks at the El Paso County Jail before being transported to a federal prison.

"Why does [President Bush] have to send these men to prison in order that his policy not be disrupted?" Rohrabacher asked San Diego radio host Roger Hedgecock after speaking with WND last night. "He talks about being a Christian, but he has shown no Christian charity."

Asked by WND for a response to Rohrabacher's remarks, White House spokesman Alex Conant deferred to Snows comments on the case.

Rohrabacher told WND he sees a serious residual result of the administration's handling of the agents.

"The word is out that the southern border is undefended," he said. "Border agents won't dare to draw their weapons, and the drug cartel will double their effort to drive a wedge in our border."

Rohrabacher said he has been disturbed by an "arrogant" lack of response from senior Justice Department and White House officials who have "shoved over" their inquiries to lower-level staff.

"I've never seen an administration that does it this way," he said. "In the past, if there is a senior member of Congress calling, it would require a call back directly from the administration official in question."

The Justice Department did not respond to WND's request for comment.

Bush has received a letter about the case from more than 50 Congress members, and yesterday an online petition by Grassfire.org with more than 225,000 signatures calling for a presidential pardon was delivered to the White House.

As WND has reported, a federal jury convicted Compean, 28, and Ramos, 37, in March after a two-week trial on charges of causing serious bodily injury, assault with a deadly weapon, discharge of a firearm in relation to a crime of violence and a civil rights violation.

Ramos is an eight-year veteran of the U.S. Naval Reserve and a former nominee for Border Patrol Agent of the Year.

According to the agents, Ramos responded Feb. 17, 2005, to a request for back-up from Compean, who noticed a suspicious van near the levee road along the Rio Grande River near the Texas town of Fabens, about 40 miles east of El Paso. A third agent also joined the pursuit.

Aldrete-Davila stopped the van on a levee, jumped out and started running toward the river. When he reached the other side of the levee, he was met by Compean who had anticipated the smuggler's attempt to get back to Mexico.

"We both yelled out for him to stop, but he wouldn't stop, and he just kept running," Ramos told California's Inland Valley Daily Bulletin.

"At some point during the time where I'm crossing the canal, I hear shots being fired," Ramos said. "Later, I see Compean on the ground, but I keep running after the smuggler."

At that point, Ramos said, Aldrete-Davila turned toward him, pointing what looked like a gun.

"I shot," Ramos said. "But I didn't think he was hit, because he kept running into the brush and then disappeared into it. Later, we all watched as he jumped into a van waiting for him. He seemed fine. It didn't look like he had been hit at all."

The U.S. government filed charges against Ramos and Compean after giving full immunity to Aldrete-Davila and paying for his medical treatment at an El Paso hospital.

The U.S. Attorney's Office for the Western District of Texas issued a statement in September arguing "the defendants were prosecuted because they had fired their weapons at a man who had attempted to surrender by holding his open hands in the air, at which time Agent Compean attempted to hit the man with the butt of Compean's shotgun, causing the man to run in fear of what the agents would do to him next."

The statement said, "Although both agents saw that the man was not armed, the agents fired at least 15 rounds at him while he was running away from them, hitting him once."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; compean; ignacioramos; immigrantlist; josecompean; ramos; rohrabacher; tonysnow
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To: joyspring777
No, Terry was a wannabe spy - contract type worker for one of the three letter agencies.

When he went to Mexico per his handlers direction, he found out just what was going down. The Company was moving product, one might say.

When he wanted out, they made it rough for him and in fact used a stolen aircraft to try and link him to a federal felony.

He brought suit to clear his name but the Federal judge basically eliminated his witness list.

His suit was making the heir apparent, Slickmeister, look bad, so Talbot used Time Magazine to try and destroy his reputation.

That kind of back fired and those who knew the truth about Mena Airport began to understand Bush 1's walking dead reelection campaign.

I have a slight advantage as I worked in another county were similar activities ( as far as the importation of various white powders) were taking place.

The bottom line was Reagan & Company knew the USSR was imploding and needed *hitloads of money to guide the collapse.

I'm certain the various think tanks warned the Soviets would go nuclear, rather than face the wrath of the Russian people who they'd crapped on for all those years.

So decisions were made.. deals bartered.... In California, if one was "in the know" so to speak, the sky was the limit. Our Sheriff (See Tidwell, Floyd Sheriff for additional details) certainly used that knowledge to his advantage.

Man what an era, but I survived with my honor intact.

181 posted on 01/17/2007 4:40:55 PM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: PRND21

Still won't answer my question, I see.


182 posted on 01/17/2007 4:41:32 PM PST by teawithmisswilliams (Basta, already!)
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To: teawithmisswilliams

The answer to your absurd question is no.


183 posted on 01/17/2007 4:44:28 PM PST by PRND21
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To: PRND21
Perhaps you should read up on those cases before using them to bash the President.

Perhaps you should bite me...

sw

184 posted on 01/17/2007 4:47:55 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Defiant

>Bush is such a disappointment. Snow should not be defending this. It is a travesty, on z par....<

Not only a travesty, but unbelievably diabolic! This President has always ignored his constituentsy.


185 posted on 01/17/2007 4:48:02 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: PRND21
You seem enamored with the law.

No. And quit asking about Sandy, it's irrelevant

OK, letsmoveon ;^)

186 posted on 01/17/2007 4:48:50 PM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: spectre
Perhaps you should bite me...

You would most likely ask to get me pardoned.

187 posted on 01/17/2007 4:51:31 PM PST by PRND21
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To: EternalVigilance


PING


188 posted on 01/17/2007 4:57:03 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: PRND21
Yes, even you..

sw

189 posted on 01/17/2007 4:57:53 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: deport
A little more fuel to the fire.........

United States Attorney Johnny Sutton
Western District of Texas

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: SHANA JONES
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 17, 2007 PHONE: (210) 384-7452
www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw FAX: (210) 384-7105

MYTH VS. REALITY--THE FACTS OF WHY THE GOVERNMENT PROSECUTED AGENTS COMPEAN AND RAMOS

Myth: THE AGENTS WERE JUST DOING THEIR JOBS

Myth: THE GOVERNMENT LET A DRUG SMUGGLER GO FREE

Myth: THESE BORDER PATROL AGENTS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PROSECUTED

Myth: ALDRETE HAS BEEN ARRESTED FOR SMUGGLING MORE DRUGS INTO THE UNITED STATES

Myth: THE GOVERNMENT GAVE ALDRETE BLANKET IMMUNITY FOR HIS CRIMES

Myth: ALDRETE HAD A GUN AND THE AGENTS ONLY FIRED IN SELF DEFENSE

Myth: THE AGENTS WERE NOT SURE OF WHAT THEY SAW BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT

Myth: JOHNNY SUTTON IS AN OVERZEALOUS PROSECUTOR WHO IS ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE LAW

Myth: THESE AGENTS ARE FACING TOO MUCH TIME IN FEDERAL PRISON

Myth: THE DRUG SMUGGLER WAS AWARDED A GREEN CARD

Myth: ALDRETE NEVER HAD HIS HANDS UP AND WAS NOT ATTEMPTING TO SURRENDER

Myth: COMPEAN WAS BLOODIED FROM A STRUGGLE WITH ALDRETE

Myth: THESE AGENTS DID NOT REPORT THE SHOOTING TO SUPERVISORS BECAUSE THE SUPERVISORS WERE ON THE SCENE OF THE SHOOTING

Myth: ILLEGAL ALIENS DO NOT HAVE ANY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS

Myth: AGENT RAMOS CLAIMS THAT THE BULLET EXTRACTED FROM ALDRETE MIGHT NOT HAVE COME FROM HIS SERVICE REVOLVER

Myth: AGENT RAMOS WAS BORDER PATROL AGENT OF THE YEAR


190 posted on 01/17/2007 5:03:42 PM PST by deport
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To: deport
After Ramos told Aldrete-Davila to stop, Ramos drew his service revolver and pointed it at Aldrete-Davila

How is this possible deport? The Border Patrol hasn't been issued revolvers in over ten years.

191 posted on 01/17/2007 5:31:28 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: Ajnin

How is this possible deport? The Border Patrol hasn't been issued revolvers in over ten years.



No idea..... do you?..... maybe a misnomer of the type firearms carried.... who knows. But whatever weapon he was carrying did he fire it and try to cover the firing up?


192 posted on 01/17/2007 5:38:20 PM PST by deport
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To: deport
Agent Compean attempted to hit the man with the butt of Compean’s shotgun, causing the man to run in fear of what the agents would do to him next. Although both agents saw that the man was not armed, the agents fired at least 15 rounds at him while he was running away from them, hitting him once.

If they fired a combined fifteen rounds I wonder how they did that with only a six round revolver and a five round service shotgun?

193 posted on 01/17/2007 5:41:38 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: Ajnin

Maybe they pointed they finger and went ......

bang

bang

reckon?


194 posted on 01/17/2007 5:56:18 PM PST by deport
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To: deport
According to written Border Patrol policy, an agent who discharges his firearm at anytime, including off duty or by accident, must report the discharge to a supervisor within one hour.

This is wrong. There is no requirement to report the discharge of a firearm off duty unless it results in injury or property damage.

195 posted on 01/17/2007 5:57:09 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: Ode To Ted Kennedys Liver
The words Eminent Domain may give an indication.

Depressing... very depressing...
196 posted on 01/17/2007 5:57:24 PM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: Paperdoll; Taxman; Ladycalif; chicagolady; Gelato; Waywardson; Broadside

http://www.kvia.com/Global/story.asp?S=5947307


L PASO, Tx. - Two former El Paso Border Patrol agents reported to federal officials Wednesday afternoon to start their prison sentence.

Ignacio Ramos turned himself into federal officials in downtown El Paso shortly before 2pm Wednesday afternoon. Former agent Jose Compean turned himself in a short time later.

Ramos, surrounded by family, friends, and supporters, walked up the federal courthouse steps early Wednesday afternoon. A group of about 50 people standing nearby shouted their support as Ramos exchanged tearful hugs with those around him.

Compean and Ramos are scheduled to start their prison sentences of 12 years and 11 years, at separate federal prisons.

In 2005, the two fired a combined 14 shots at a drug smuggler as he ran back across the border into Mexico. The smuggler was hit once in the backside.

Both agents failed to report the incident to their supervisor, prompting the court case.

On Tuesday, Jose Compean told ABC-7 he feels prison time is the ultimate insult to his service.

Compean said, "I feel betrayed by the government. My entire adult life, I've been doing nothing but working in the government. My four years in the military, and five years in the Border Patrol. I've done nothing but protect this country, and this is the way I get repaid."

US Attorney Johnn Sutton released a statement Wednesday afternoon, stating the facts of the case and giving the reasons the government prosecuted Ramos and Compean.


197 posted on 01/17/2007 6:04:32 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: PRND21

Your defense of the government's actions in this case is what is absurd. I give up, you clearly refuse to address the concept of "justice" as it applies in this case.


198 posted on 01/17/2007 6:10:40 PM PST by teawithmisswilliams (None so blind as those that will not see)
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To: EternalVigilance

Good to see Robin


199 posted on 01/17/2007 6:13:23 PM PST by Ladycalif (Ramos and Compean - We Are Safer When They Are Out)
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To: EternalVigilance

200 posted on 01/17/2007 6:14:33 PM PST by Ladycalif (Ramos and Compean - We Are Safer When They Are Out)
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