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Giuliani Calls on Europeans to Stiffen Measures Against Hate Crimes
The United States Mission to the European Union (public domain, reprinted from the New York Times) ^ | June 18, 2003 | Rudy Giuliani

Posted on 01/16/2007 6:13:35 PM PST by JCEccles

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To: JCEccles
...The three of them might disagree on some things, but they would be foursquare in favor of criminalizing and punishing "slackers" who refuse to buy into their social liberal agenda...

You bet!... It's a slippery slope... It begins with a few "common sense social-engineering laws," and slowly they will slide into that world, a Europe kind of world... I don't like that world!

I fear the left with this kind of power... They are ruled by a compass very different from our side. I am not an expert on Europe, but I heard of laws there suppressing freedom of speech that would scare the hell of our founders!...

81 posted on 01/16/2007 8:40:14 PM PST by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends - basically :) - despite our differences)
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To: JCEccles

Defend Hillary if you can.

I am not defending Rudy per se. But I am saying that compared to Hillary, that I would vote for Rudy. On a comparative basis he is a better choice. Of the three leading contenders for Republican nominee I am leaning towards Romney now from what I've read. I believe the nominee will be either McCain, Guiliani or Romney but we'll see. None of them are Reagan conservatives. But neither is Hillary.


82 posted on 01/16/2007 8:41:40 PM PST by plain talk
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To: JCEccles

Your #31 deserves a bump:

""Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it." - Rudy Giuliani"


83 posted on 01/16/2007 8:47:41 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: plain talk

So defend away, if you can.


84 posted on 01/16/2007 8:58:01 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: narses

Grow up and learn to read.


85 posted on 01/16/2007 9:15:37 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Let's say it again:

""Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it." - Rudy Giuliani"


86 posted on 01/16/2007 9:18:09 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: plain talk

Grow up? You claim to "defend reason and comparative choices" while your buddy Rudy calls for words to be made criminal. Defend away or not, but your petulant attitude doesn't speak well for either you or your apparent candidate.


87 posted on 01/16/2007 9:23:14 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: plain talk

"Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it." - Rudy Giuliani

Defend away!


88 posted on 01/16/2007 9:23:46 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: Graybeard58

bttt


89 posted on 01/16/2007 10:01:45 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: BuffaloJack

Exactly Jack. I don't think there is any crime motivated by love. Even crimes of passion are motivated by selfishness, revenge, anger, etc.

I think my 7 year old nephew made up the term "hate crime", as in; 'you're mean, I hate you'.


90 posted on 01/16/2007 10:33:15 PM PST by part deux
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To: JCEccles

Rudy is articulating a core problem of islamic violence. Islam is hiding behind antisemitism and Israel, when in reality they want to butcher all non muslims.


91 posted on 01/17/2007 3:59:44 AM PST by tkathy (Sectarian violence? Or genocidal racists? Which is a better description of islamists?)
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To: ElPatriota
I heard of laws there suppressing freedom of speech that would scare the hell of our founders!...

Those laws never went away really, that is why the "founders" left Europe to begin with!

If the Second Amendment is all that stands between us and that dismal scenario of Eurabia, to hell with Julie-Annie!

92 posted on 01/17/2007 4:08:03 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: tkathy
Islam is hiding behind antisemitism...

Arabs are Semites...

93 posted on 01/17/2007 4:09:05 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Clemenza
Giussolini

bump...

94 posted on 01/17/2007 4:32:15 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Arabs are caucasian, and probably most have jewish blood.


95 posted on 01/17/2007 5:01:49 AM PST by tkathy (Sectarian violence? Or genocidal racists? Which is a better description of islamists?)
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To: tkathy

Not all Jews are Semitic... Arabs are indeed Semites... Not all Arabs are Muslim...


96 posted on 01/17/2007 5:05:35 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: All

Rudy is a man who loves power, an experienced ex-prosecutor anxious to use it. He is apt to use it with at least as much zeal against Americans who don't "think right" as he is against Islamofascists.


97 posted on 01/17/2007 5:29:12 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: taxesareforever; raybbr; Graybeard58; TommyDale; jla; beltfed308; Fierce Allegiance
Sounds like Rudy wants to put a stop to people dissing him in his possible run for president.

LOL-----taxesareforever got that right, eh?

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98 posted on 01/17/2007 5:33:41 AM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Maybe all muslims should get their DNA tested and carry a card that says if they have jewish blood or not, if they are white or not...............


99 posted on 01/17/2007 5:36:39 AM PST by tkathy (Sectarian violence? Or genocidal racists? Which is a better description of islamists?)
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To: JCEccles
Giuliani Calls on Europeans to Stiffen Measures Against Hate Crimes

Julie Annie is a totalitarian from the soles of his feet to the top of his head, and yet some of the tards on this site see him as the second coming of Regan. The second coming of LBJ or Clinton maybe.

100 posted on 01/17/2007 5:45:25 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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