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Giuliani Calls on Europeans to Stiffen Measures Against Hate Crimes
The United States Mission to the European Union (public domain, reprinted from the New York Times) ^ | June 18, 2003 | Rudy Giuliani

Posted on 01/16/2007 6:13:35 PM PST by JCEccles

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To: tkathy
Maybe all muslims should get their DNA tested and carry a card that says if they have jewish blood or not, if they are white or not...............

Argumentum absurdium. Nothing will matter "until the faith of Islam has ceased to be."

"The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men... No stronger retrograde force exists in the world."

-Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).


101 posted on 01/17/2007 5:53:01 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Clemenza; Liz

Giussolini

LOL! Good one!
102 posted on 01/17/2007 6:05:08 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: Liz

Has Giussolini always been this way with people who speak in opposition?


103 posted on 01/17/2007 6:17:46 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: JCEccles

Crime is crime and should be prosecuted as such.

Imposing extra penalties because the perp is a different race or relgion or such than the victim is just a form of discrimination.


104 posted on 01/17/2007 6:19:42 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Let's make this an Obamagasm free zone)
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To: TitansAFC
---"Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it." ---Rudy Giuliani

"We are going to take things away from you for the common good" -- Hillary Clinton.

Seperated at birth?

105 posted on 01/17/2007 6:21:16 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Let's make this an Obamagasm free zone)
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To: JCEccles

America's Mayor is an idiotic, cross-dressing clown with a lisp. We might as well get Hillary for POTUS if he is the alternative.


106 posted on 01/17/2007 6:37:48 AM PST by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: JCEccles; Extremely Extreme Extremist
Giuliani confesses in detail his white-hot zeal in pushing just such an agenda in New York City when he was mayor.

A (slightly altered) quote from a famous Virginian might make some sense here:

Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.

I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of Guiliani for the last ten years to justify those hopes with which freepers have been pleased to solace themselves

I would say that this part of the address to the house of Burgesses would be applicable here too. Or how about "The leopard doesn't change his spots" Julie Annie is a male version of Hillary Clinton. There is a reason that left wing, bed wetting, freedom hating liberal voters of NYC elected both of them.
107 posted on 01/17/2007 6:38:26 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: TommyDale; jla; Reagan Man; beltfed308; raybbr; Fierce Allegiance; Alberta's Child

Giussolini engages in "selective" hate.

Everybody knows you can't hate jack-booted bullies with multi-million dollar legal defense funds lying in wait to pounce if you should so much as blink a trifle faster than normal.

But according to Rudy, it IS ok---and even encourged---to hate defenseless conservatives, churchgoers, Bible-believers, pro-lifers, traditional marriage supporters, Second Amendment types, and non-RINO Republicans.


(Sniffle) Too bad holier-than-thou Preacher Rudy's gonna fall off his secular lectern (sob).


108 posted on 01/17/2007 6:50:50 AM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: Liz
"But according to Rudy, it IS ok---and even encourged---to hate defenseless conservatives, churchgoers, Bible-believers, pro-lifers, traditional marriage supporters, Second Amendment types, and non-RINO Republicans."

Yet, his sheepish followers expect these people you mentioned to just roll over and trust that he is now a changed man, and he is to be trusted as a conservative.

109 posted on 01/17/2007 6:54:27 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: silentreignofheroes
Broad Brush,,,,,,I've beat the crap out of my sisters in my day,some would say it's not fair (5 Sisters to 1 brother,but I managed)and I still would kill for them...

but by Rudi's reasoning, you are guilty of a Hate Crime against women, regardless of how you feel about them now.

110 posted on 01/17/2007 6:55:50 AM PST by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: TommyDale
......Rudy's sheepish followers expect conservatives, churchgoers, Bible-believers, pro-lifers, traditional marriage supporters, Second Amendment types, and non-RINO Republicans to just roll over and trust that he is now a changed man, and he is to be trusted as a conservative.........

Heck, Rudy's leaving nothing to chance----"The Shadow" star Alec Baldwin is training Rudy on how to cloud men's minds so they forget every liberal thing Rudy's done in the past.

111 posted on 01/17/2007 7:06:00 AM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: subterfuge; TommyDale
America's Mayor is an idiotic, cross-dressing clown with a lisp. We might as well get Hillary for POTUS if he is the alternative.

We gotta get that on a tee shirt.

112 posted on 01/17/2007 7:12:11 AM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: Cincinna; Liz; All
Rudy is again standing up for Israel and against the growing anti-semitism in Europe, and you fault him for that?

Not really. Rudy is actually engaging in shameless pandering here.

If you were to replace the term "Jews" with "African-Americans" in this article and credit it to an unnamed author, you'd swear it was written by the kind of @sshole who is so liberal he makes the Congressional Black Caucus look like a Confederate heritage organization.

Either Rudy thinks Europeans are stupid, or he's so shameless and arrogant here that he simply doesn't care. How else do you explain why he went out of his way to personally include the one high-profile member of his administration (Bernie Kerik) who has been thoroughly disgraced?

113 posted on 01/17/2007 7:20:55 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Liz

I'd buy one.


114 posted on 01/17/2007 7:24:10 AM PST by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: plain talk

This thread clearly illustrates why this "Rudy is far better than Hillary" mantra is utter nonsense. Rudy would be far more dangerous to this country than Hillary would -- simply because we've got a lot of so-called "conservatives" here supporting Rudy Giuliani on issues and initiatives that they would never accept in a bazillion years if they were proposed by Hillary Clinton.


115 posted on 01/17/2007 7:29:53 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child; Clemenza; TommyDale
Clemenza posted When I say Rudy is "too European" to be the GOP nominee, its stuff like this that stands out, among other things.
Alberta's Child posted Rudy is engaging in shameless pandering here. If you were to replace the term "Jews" with "African-Americans" in this article and credit it to an unnamed author, you'd swear it was written by the kind of @sshole who is so liberal he makes the Congressional Black Caucus look like a Confederate heritage organization. Either Rudy thinks Europeans are stupid, or he's so shameless and arrogant here that he simply doesn't care.

Ummmm....I see they forgot to post the graphic with this article. It's a really nice pic of Rudy, on his knees, all puckered-up. The caption says it all. "I'll say anything you want me to say. Just elect me."

116 posted on 01/17/2007 7:38:43 AM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: Alberta's Child

Rudy's strong, consistent, and unwavering support and committment to Israel, and against anti-semitism is evident from the very beginning of his career.


117 posted on 01/17/2007 10:01:07 AM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO "We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good")
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To: Cincinna
Rudy's strong, consistent, and unwavering support and committment to Israel, and against anti-semitism is evident from the very beginning of his career.

Ex-prosecutor Rudy's strong, consistent, and unwavering support and committment to such social liberal abominations as hate crimes legislation will criminalize politically incorrect thought in this country. With the complicit assistance of fellow social liberals Pelosi and Reid, Giuliani will lead us into the same dark age of dissent in which Europe already finds itself.

118 posted on 01/17/2007 12:15:00 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: narses

Candidate? Go back and read my posts. Guiliani isn't my candidate. You not only need to grow up and mature but you need to learn how to read.


119 posted on 01/17/2007 4:18:43 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Alberta's Child

A FReeper who would prefer Hillary over Rudy is a "cut off your nose to spite your face" type. I'm quite familiar with these sorts of emotional hotheads who bases decision on emotion rather than reason. Such is life and we have to work around them.


120 posted on 01/17/2007 4:24:08 PM PST by plain talk
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