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Republican pushes gun show bill (VA)
Richmond Times-Dispatch ^ | January 15, 2007 | NA

Posted on 01/16/2007 10:28:37 AM PST by neverdem

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To: Oztrich Boy

Yes, then there actually would be a loophole, unlike the present state.


41 posted on 01/16/2007 3:14:31 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Oztrich Boy
When they get that, there will be a call to close the "not at a gunshow loophole"

LOL! So true! These are DUmmies we're talking about afterall.

42 posted on 01/16/2007 3:24:02 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Celebrate Mediocrity!)
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To: neverdem
We (the VCDL are working hard to get this defeated. Nevertheless if it passes, I am sure that private gun sales will move outside to the parking lot.
43 posted on 01/16/2007 4:25:44 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: VeniVidiVici
"LOL! So true! These are DUmmies we're talking about afterall."

Quite a few are elected Republican "leaders".
44 posted on 01/16/2007 4:28:22 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: Leatherneck_MT

Never Again.


45 posted on 01/16/2007 4:32:25 PM PST by nygoose
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To: LIConFem
Because I'm one of those idiots who still insists that the 'Pubs are the lesser of two evils. My perception still hasn't caught up with reality. Either that, or I'm being intellectually dishonest with myself.

Many conservatives are starting to get fed up with the republicans. For the most part, the republicans are just manufacturers for more bureaucracy and agencies to take away rights in the name of security.
46 posted on 01/16/2007 6:14:58 PM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: Eagle Eye
The '08 elections will be for the survival of the republic. Just as they were in '06, '04, '02, '00....

Sad thing is that we have been progressivly going to hell in a hand basket for a long time. Regardless of what party is in power, states rights are eroded, the RKBA has been attacked from the local to the federal level, and spending is out of control. The politicians are doing their share in destroying the country. However, I see the judges as doing the most damage... they are not accountable to anybody.
47 posted on 01/16/2007 6:25:12 PM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: neverdem
Davis described her bill "as not about taking away anybody's Second Amendment rights" but a "commonsense bill."

Well, she's got the gun grabbers' party line lie down pat.

She's also married to a US Congressman, Tom Davis (R-VA 11th).

He's apparently an anti second amendment type as well.

from Votesmart

2006 Based on lifetime voting records on gun issues and the results of a questionnaire sent to all Congressional candidates in 2006, the National Rifle Association assigned Representative Davis a grade of D (with grades ranging from a high of A+ to a low of F).

2005 Representative Davis supported the interests of the Gun Owners of America 0 percent in 2005.

With RINOs like these, who needs 'Rats?

48 posted on 01/16/2007 7:42:27 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: RayStacy
Let's not forget Ronald Reagan endorsing the Brady Bill and signing the "Make it financially impossible for any normal person to buy a machine-gun commerce act of 198?"

He was well into his Alzheimer's when "he" endorsed the Brady Bill. I suspect it was actually Nancy.

As to the 1986 Firearm Owner's Protection Act, well he might not have even known that single anti gun provision was in what was otherwise a very pro arms rights bill. It removed some, but sadly not all, of the worst provision of the 1968 Gun Control Act. For example, it removed the restrictions on buying ammunition, without having to provide ID and sign for every box of .22 shorts, and once more allowed "mail order" sales of ammunition. It also reined in some of the worst practices of the BATF. It also provided protection for transporting guns through arms rights hostile jurisdictions. Lots of good stuff in that bill, the most important perhaps being the addition of single word "willfully" into the law, making willful violations of the law a requirement for punishment. That cut way back on the BATF's then current practices.

The machine gun ban was literally a last minute amendment that most people didn't even know about, or if they did, understand the effect of. In fact if the courts interpreted it literally (how are laws supposed to be interpreted??) it wouldn't have changed anything. Unfortunately it's interpreted and enforced by the intent of of it's author, which was indeed to ban machine guns.

Read all about it:

THE FIREARMS OWNERS' PROTECTION ACT: A HISTORICAL AND LEGAL PERSPECTIVE

49 posted on 01/16/2007 8:04:40 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: LIConFem

I still vote for Republicans as well, but I now pick and choose carefully.
No longer do I "hold my nose" and vote for Republicans who aid and abet the scumbag Democrats in their agenda to turn America into a Euro-style, secular-socialist welfare state. That agenda includes destroying the ultimate firewall known as "the Second Amendment".


50 posted on 01/16/2007 8:09:21 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Does anybody remember "Red Dawn"? When the enemy took over a town, they went to the gun registration lists to get most weapons.

The more enduring image was the outstretched (dead) hand clasping a Colt 45 as a Soviet boot steps on the (dead) wrist and a storm trooper wrests the gun away. It happens at the rear of a truck whose bumpersticker reads: The can have my gun when they pry it from my Cold Dead Hands! I much prefer the motto (in light of the above): When they finally DO get my guns....They're going to be WARMER than ME!

51 posted on 01/17/2007 5:49:12 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Eagle Eye
We voters need to start voting our principles and conscience and forget being pragmatic. Pragmatism votes for Bob Dole and gets Clinton elected.

I'll agree to that only insofar as the general election is concerned. If the 'Pubbies can WAKE UP and nominate a real conservative (not Rudy or McLame) I'll stay the course. But I simply refuse to vote to have my own guns grabbed by McLame, Rudy and RINOs anonymous.

52 posted on 01/17/2007 5:54:10 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ExSoldier
I had forgotten that. thanks
53 posted on 01/17/2007 6:00:41 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: ExSoldier

If history repeats itself, the GOP will back a RINO candidate and expect/demand support.

They'll say that if you vote anything other than their candidate you are helping elect the Democrat.

Personally, since I know that I can't trust the Democrat, I won't be tricked or fooled.

With the moderate RINO you never know when you're gonna get screwed.


54 posted on 01/17/2007 6:44:48 AM PST by Eagle Eye (I'm a RINO because I'm too conservative to be a real Republican.)
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To: Redbob

Duck and cover...;-)


55 posted on 01/17/2007 8:08:39 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: Eagle Eye
If the GOP relives history (having refused to learn the lesson) and does indeed nominate the RINO, I think the best possible outcome for the country would be a decisive vote returning control of the Congress to the social conservatives in both houses....however....realizing the unliklihood of pigs flying....I would settle for nominal control of the Congress by the GOP. Think there's any chance of the third party "spolier" throwing the race to the RATs while still allowing the GOP to regain the Congress? I would think that the third party win for the GOOD GUYS is still a remote possibility, especially where the third party nominates a real conservative. All other involved parties will be so far to the left so the conservative will seem absolutely fascist in comparison.
56 posted on 01/17/2007 9:57:28 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: neverdem
A politician applying the term "common sense" to anything is an oxymoron...emphasis on the MORON.
57 posted on 01/17/2007 10:00:10 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: neverdem

You know, I have just come to the conclusion that you can't trust any woman that keeps her maiden name when she gets married, regardless if it is hyphenated or not.


58 posted on 01/17/2007 11:48:18 AM PST by looscnnn ("Olestra (Olean) applications causes memory leaks" PC Confusious)
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To: LIConFem

You must be related to Capt. Jack Aubrey, "one must always choose the lesser of two weevils."


59 posted on 01/17/2007 11:53:51 AM PST by looscnnn ("Olestra (Olean) applications causes memory leaks" PC Confusious)
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To: RayStacy
"commerce act of 198?"

I knew Reagan was old when he was President, but he wasn't that old.

60 posted on 01/17/2007 11:55:34 AM PST by looscnnn ("Olestra (Olean) applications causes memory leaks" PC Confusious)
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