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51% of Women Are Now Living Without Spouse
New York Times ^ | 16 January 2007 | Sam Roberts

Posted on 01/16/2007 10:04:04 AM PST by shrinkermd

For what experts say is probably the first time, more American women are living without a husband than with one, according to a New York Times analysis of census results.

In 2005, 51 percent of women said they were living without a spouse, up from 35 percent in 1950 and 49 percent in 2000.

Coupled with the fact that in 2005 married couples became a minority of all American households for the first time, the trend could ultimately shape social and workplace policies, including the ways government and employers distribute benefits.

Several factors are driving the statistical shift. At one end of the age spectrum, women are marrying later or living with unmarried partners more often and for longer periods. At the other end, women are living longer as widows and, after a divorce, are more likely than men to delay remarriage, sometimes delighting in their newfound freedom.

In addition, marriage rates among black women remain low. Only about 30 percent of black women are living with a spouse, according to the Census Bureau, compared with about 49 percent of Hispanic women, 55 percent of non-Hispanic white women and more than 60 percent of Asian women.

In a relatively small number of cases, the living arrangement is temporary, because the husbands are working out of town, are in the military or are institutionalized. But while most women eventually marry, the larger trend is unmistakable.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: culturalentropy; increasing; single; women
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To: shrinkermd

This will be picked up and rebroadcast by all the media. Problem is that it is a contrived number. They had to include 15 year olds to get the number where they want it. (Few 15 year olds are married.) Also, it includes widows (most women over 75 or so are widowed)


401 posted on 01/17/2007 10:40:36 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (never trust the media)
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To: OMalley
Ive either already heard it hear on FR and therefore give him the commentary over the top of the bobbing head, or i SIGH prefusly, yell at the tv...... Good thing he loves me so much;)

I see that this isn't a male or female thing, as I do this quite often to my roommates. Although it doesn't annoy them; quite the contrary, they find it entertaining. In fact, they turn it on just to get me going when they need a laugh.
402 posted on 01/17/2007 10:52:55 AM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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To: shrinkermd
"In a relatively small number of cases, the living arrangement is temporary, because the husbands are working out of town, are in the military or are institutionalized. "

So..it must have been about 70% living without a spouse in WWII? So what actually is the trend?

403 posted on 01/17/2007 10:57:08 AM PST by cookcounty (The "Greatest Generation" was also the most violent generation.)
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To: linda_22003
"Not all women are without spouses by choice. Steinem herself has been widowed for the last three years."

You'd have died early, too, if your wife kept you locked in the closet all those years.

404 posted on 01/17/2007 11:00:07 AM PST by cookcounty (The "Greatest Generation" was also the most violent generation.)
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To: paul51

>And spousal and child support payments.<

By the grace of God, I raised three without either during the sixties and early seventies. No handouts, no gubmint programs, just faith, grit and hard work after 13 years of a bad marriage. It can be done.


405 posted on 01/17/2007 11:00:53 AM PST by Paperdoll
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To: JamesP81

I never dated til 25 either, but not by choice. I repeatedly asked and was rejected. At the time I owned 6 apartment buildings and lived in them. I knew the intimate details of the lives of all of my tenants. 50% were unattached women. 30% were unattached men. 20% were married (ceremony or common law).

After continued rejections age 25 to 30, I began an intensive examination of the subject, talking with large numbers of people, including literally hundreds of current and former tenants who had talked with me in the past about their intimate decisions.

I formed my opinions then and have found them to be generally consistent with subsequent observations. Of course, there are exceptions.


406 posted on 01/17/2007 11:02:06 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: SauronOfMordor
It's hard for a woman on the right half of the Bell Curve to accomplish that. Meanwhile, men who are equal to them in income, or are balding or overweight, are not interesting to them

Women shouldn't fall too much in love with the hair. The weight can be dealt with, but almost all men eventually lose their hair. Some earlier than others. I'm 25 and already getting pretty thin in places. Not a lot I can do about it (that's within my budget anyway) but it's something to keep in mind.
407 posted on 01/17/2007 11:12:15 AM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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To: spintreebob
"The hard working available men are not Hugh Grant, not even Fedex."

LOL!! As the ex-FedEx guy, let me give you single guys a clue. Drop your "career". Go work for UPS or FedEx as a driver and you will meet lots of women! I was seriously married before I went to work for FedEx, so I didn't get the "results", but the opportunities? My, my my,.....hundreds........thousands.

408 posted on 01/17/2007 11:15:05 AM PST by cookcounty (The "Greatest Generation" was also the most violent generation.)
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To: Melas
It's mostly about just having the balls to be yourself and speak your mind. Guys who follow their own interests and speak their own minds are masucline

I do this pretty much all the time. Hasn't generated a lot of results yet either. And no, I'm not looking for women in all the wrong places. I've restricted it to church activities mostly.
409 posted on 01/17/2007 11:15:24 AM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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To: cookcounty

I didn't know that was the cause of brain lymphoma. Thank you for your medical expertise.


410 posted on 01/17/2007 11:15:58 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: concerned about politics
Are you saying there's a connection between Marx' philosophy and pedophiles? If so, could you point me to where this is substantiated? Thanks!

Carolyn

411 posted on 01/17/2007 11:20:20 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: spintreebob
I formed my opinions then and have found them to be generally consistent with subsequent observations. Of course, there are exceptions.

Out of curiosity, what are those opinions?
412 posted on 01/17/2007 11:23:56 AM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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To: Theophilus

"It seems like people of both sexes are getting more and more selfish, bitter, lazy, hard headed and hence, more lonely. "

agreed.

"These threads should be misanthropic rather than misogynist."


The hatred expressed towards women by freepers on thread after thread is downright frightening.

"I fear for my children. I want them all to have good marriages, growing families - getting better all the time, like I have. "

I've been blessed with that too and would like to see the same for my kids.
Self sacrifice is the key - and that just isn't something that is taught as a value today.

"Hopefully their spouses will be freepers"

Some freepers are very scary.


413 posted on 01/17/2007 11:41:58 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Shyness does not equal weakness.


414 posted on 01/17/2007 11:48:13 AM PST by gawatchman
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To: gawatchman
Shyness does not equal weakness.

Then what is a shy man afraid of? Social censure?

That's probably greatest weakness a man could possibly demonstrate - especially toward women.

415 posted on 01/17/2007 12:19:36 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Oh please.

I know plenty of "shy" men who are plenty manly. They just get all tied in knots when it comes to women. Sometimes because they're used to being rejected, others just because they have a poor self-image - often about looks, which is often engendered by all their peers when they grew up.

Dad, my husband....many of my cousins. Some of my husband's friends. These men are shy guys but not "wimps".

Give me a break. Apparently you all can't make the distinction.


416 posted on 01/17/2007 12:33:07 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: JamesP81

Believe it or not, I would recomend bars over church for meeting women. Call me old school.


417 posted on 01/17/2007 12:40:55 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
They just get all tied in knots when it comes to women.

Oh, you mean they bought into the Disney/Church/MSM/Feminist/Socialist meme that women are Higher Beings who must always be obeyed and never spoken to by men unless addressed first? That kind of non-wimpiness? (LOL!) That's a pretty big "just"...

There are a fair number of women who misguidedly love having most men act "shy" of them, since it allows them to maintain the illusion that they can assert control over their relationships. They always end up paying for that in some way.

418 posted on 01/17/2007 12:47:54 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: shrinkermd

Not to be crude, but as the old saying goes "Why buy the cow when they're giving the milk away for free."

This is an unfortunate turn of events for our culture.


419 posted on 01/17/2007 12:52:43 PM PST by incredulous joe ("Those are my principals, if you don't like 'em,...well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
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To: Melas
Believe it or not, I would recomend bars over church for meeting women. Call me old school.

Easier to find Christian ladies in church, though.
420 posted on 01/17/2007 12:53:16 PM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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