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To: Just sayin

Kids grow, and some nervous people eat for comfort, and if you eat while your physical activities are reduced to moping around hiding, you will gain weight.

Your conjectures that a 15 year old was mesmerized into a physical relationship with this dirty long haired indigent laborer is the fantabulous conjecture of the chronic gossips, always looking for more dirt to soil the victim.

Footloose is a fictional film and I'm sure the gossip about a lot of PK's is just that, gossip. They are no more or less human than the rest of us, but because some prurient a-holes somehow think that PK's are supposed to be "better" than average, some how that makes their faults all the more salacious. What is said about PK's often says more about the prurient interests of the gossips.

Poor Elizabeth was physically examined by doctors and a rape kit was done to gather physical evidence. Sorry, they can tell when girls/women have given birth. There are permanent changes to the breasts, cervix, uterus and pelvic bones.

Your "feelings" are just that, feelings and not fact and you may have a right to ask questions but you don't have a right to an answer. That family owes you nothing.

Don't expect others to jump on your bandwagon of ill conceived conjecture. All it shows is that you speculate wildly without ever seeking factual information.


194 posted on 01/16/2007 8:07:06 AM PST by Valpal1 (Social vs fiscal conservtism? Sorry, I'm not voting my wallet over the broken bodies of the innocent)
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To: Valpal1

Permanent changes are one thing I take note of that make me wonder. I am sorry you hate so much that a person thinks and questions and poses ideas to explore and poses questions to seek answers.

Make it all about hate if that is what you want to but understand that is YOUR perception of my position.

Funny how you expect your OWN perception to be valid but you will spew such venom towards me for doing that very same thing.

Victims are no more or less human than the rest of us. Your own point makes one of mine Just becasue they come from a good family in a good town wih good neighbors does mean automatically mean they are good or that they always do good things. YOU put a victim on a pedastal as if they hold no responsibility whatsoever. You can do that if you like, but others won't and you shouold accept that for what it is...another's perspective that is not your own.

If you seek to protect your own ability to hold your own positions and your own perceptions, then you should spend more time protecting other's rights to do that very same thng and less time spewing venom at them for doing the very same thing you are doing.

You may feel that nothing is owed but don't expect others to coddle you and just fall ino line with your position. Spewing vitriolic statements wll not accomplish that so your effort is wasted. The family got something that most do not get and where I come from you return kindness, not just take your benefits and run. I do feel they owe something and you don't the right or the ability to force me to see it otherwise.

As for your comment about seeking factual information, well that is the goal when a question is asked. Seems that you just slammed me for asking questions and then slammed me for not seeking factual information. So then Which is it then?

With the advent of your little blunder of trying to have it both ways, you have exposed yourself as simply trying to slam me because you don't like, and disagree with, the position I take due to the perception I have. This is characteristic of someone on the hard left, not unlike the way Cindy Sheehan treats George W Bush.

You should really take a look at that with some time fo self reflection and decide if you are willing to accept that you offer the same tactics that she does.

Now, it is your choice if you do so or not. All I am doing by making that statement is posting to you my perception of your posts to me. Have a nice day.


195 posted on 01/16/2007 8:26:14 AM PST by Just sayin (Is is what it is, for if it was anything else, it would be isn't.)
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