Navy orders stand down of entire submarine force

wavy.com ^ | 01/15/2006 | N/A

[rwa265]

Navy orders stand down of entire submarine force

In a news release, the commander of the U.S. Submarine Force announced today that it will conduct an Operational Stand Down in the wake of recent submarine incidents.

In a message to the submarine force, Vice Adm. Chuck Munns, U.S. Submarine Force commander, directed the immediate "stand down" to focus energy and intellect back onto the basics of submarine operations.

The stand down comes after two incidents involving Norfolk-based submarines.

[rwa265]

FYI

[TheKidster]

Shouldn't this be something the Navy keeps out of the public eye?

[Robert A Cook PE]

Not really.

Want I'm REALLY afraid of is that a "stand down" means thousands and thousands of EXTRA man-hours (or tens of thousands of extra man-days!!!!) of extra training and inspection - instead of a couple of hours of REST and THINKING of an overextended force with too few subs to do too many jobs that is actually what is needed.

You can micro-manage your people to death.

Literally.

[Palladin]

I am interested in this news, since I have a grandson currently serving on a submarine. What does this mean to the ships at sea? Will they have to return to their home ports for the stand-down?

Can some submarine vet chime in here?

[oyez]

That's not what I heard Russian admiral predicts impending US strike against Iran

A Russian admiral would know just about everything, right?

[Disambiguator]

focus energy and intellect back onto the basics of submarine operations.

Reminds me of a story about Vince Lombardi when he was coaching at Notre Dame.

"Gentlemen, this is a submarine."

[grobdriver]

What does this mean to the ships at sea?

Not much.
Watches still have to be stood. The ship remains on station.

This will be a day where all departments review their proceedures for safety.

We would do this in the VP Navy whenever there was an incident or accident.

[RedRover]

Ping.

[encm(ss)]

You are exactly correct. Submarines at sea stay at sea. However the next return to homeport will have the Squadrons perform inspections to ensure that SOP's bills are written and are being complied with as they are written. Generally speaking - administrative check-up and enforcement.
Retired MCPOC(SS)

[BenLurkin]

Wow!

[sine_nomine]

So when did Vince coach at Notre Dame?

[rwa265]

My son is on maneuvers in the Pacific. He can't say much other than it doesn't effect them too much. Maybe a little extra training.

[Doohickey]

It really depends. Anyone who was out just tooling around will probably have RTP'ed already. Deployed units will continue their current mission and may be directed to perform some training underway with more directed training delivered during the next upkeep.

[mrmargaritaville]

They obviously need Michelle Manhart to start training the seamen.

[Doohickey]

Pretty much. This sort of thing happened once when we were deployed to the Med. We did training instead of drills for three days on the morning watch, and had to spend a day watching more training when we arrived in La Maddalena for a scheduled upkeep.

[Richard Kimball]

Right before he started coaching at Lambert Field.

[Bottom_Gun]

we've all talked about this before, and most of us agree

WE NEED MORE BOATS TO COVER THE MISSION!! I don't think that point is made enough.

[TheKidster]

I guess I was coming from a letting our enemies know our weakness point of view, rather than a inform the public point of view.

[Cinnamon Girl]

My brother served on a nuclear sub out of Conn. I thought I heard that once you've been on a sub for an extended period of time, you aren't put on again. Is that true? I'm just wondering if he would be on one of these subs.

[You Dirty Rats]

His coach at Fordham later coached at Notre Dame; does that count?