[RightWhale]

remember when your son was 11?

People age 11 are able to think for themselves and are already embarked on their main life path.

[Halls]

well, that goes all right out the window when someone tells you to come with them with a gun in their face!

[DaughterofEve]

I am around 11 year old children all day long. Many, many more than you realize are very naive and suggestible. They very often don't live up to your hard-line high expectations about thinking for themselves.

Apparently, you don't realize how trauma, abuse and torture can detour one from one's "main path", at any age.