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To: crghill
Re: It can be shown by observational evidence and logic, that the energy that the world is composed of always existed.

"Then please, by all means, show me.

The statement is equivalent to stating the principle of conservation of energy. All the evidence to date supports the principle of conservation of energy. In order to disprove that, one must give evidence that energy is not conserved in some process.

"please explain to me the preconditions which make observational evidence something that I should accept as an absolute. "

If something can not be observed, there is no evidence to believe it exists. W/o evidence there is no rational reason to believe it exists. Things are objective/absolute when they can be observed.

"Can you tell me what is a "valid" moral code? Upon what authority does your definition of "valid" rest? "

The purpose of a moral code is to protect rights. A moral code is a set of rules that protects the rights of individuals. A valid moral code protects the rights of all individuals equally and is independent of authorship. Rights are a claim to those things which identify the particulars of the essence of a sentient rational being, which when violated, destroy the essence of the being. They also include claims of property required to sustain that essence of being. Rights are claims to one's own life, soveignty of will and property.

Note that the purpose of the creating the concept of rights and the moral code which protects them is to protect the life and integrity of each individual and their sovereignty of will equally, w/o regard to any particular individual claim.

365 posted on 01/15/2007 3:37:41 PM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets

The statement is equivalent to stating the principle of conservation of energy. All the evidence to date supports the principle of conservation of energy. In order to disprove that, one must give evidence that energy is not conserved in some process.

What is behind the conservation of energy? What accounts for it's conservation? How do you know that you know that energy is conserved (that's not a typo by the way)?

If something can not be observed, there is no evidence to believe it exists. W/o evidence there is no rational reason to believe it exists. Things are objective/absolute when they can be observed.

Can the laws of logic be observed? Are the laws of logic material? Do the laws of logic exist?

The purpose of a moral code is to protect rights. A moral code is a set of rules that protects the rights of individuals. A valid moral code protects the rights of all individuals equally and is independent of authorship. Rights are a claim to those things which identify the particulars of the essence of a sentient rational being, which when violated, destroy the essence of the being. They also include claims of property required to sustain that essence of being. Rights are claims to one's own life, soveignty of will and property

1. Says who?
2. Can you give me an example of an moral absolute?





383 posted on 01/15/2007 6:17:24 PM PST by crghill
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