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Christian leader rejects McCain
NewsNetDaily.com ^ | Januaru 13, 2007 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 01/13/2007 1:56:54 PM PST by Reagan Man

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To: Mia T

John McCain, Rudy Giuliani and Ken Mehlman hve all shown their disdain for the Religious Right. If they want to win in 2008, they better start by extending an olive branch. So far all they have done is alienate the conservative Christians.


141 posted on 01/14/2007 6:30:53 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: LibKill

A hero is a hero. I have nothing but respect for anyone who would endure what he did for his country.

McCain is certainly not a "loon." He's consistently been one of the key supporters of President Bush on the WoT.

Whether you want to vote for him or not, trashing the man smacks of irresponsibility.


142 posted on 01/14/2007 6:37:46 AM PST by zook (America going insane - "Do you read Sutter Caine?)
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To: Mia T

Mia T, I respect your opionion, and certainly share the same feelings about Hillary Clinton. Having said that, if the GOP leadership and Religious Right continue on their current paths, look for a repeat of the 2006 elections in 2008. There is room on both sides to change their positions.

Having said that, the Religious Right will never accept a candidate or platform that finds abortion acceptable, nor will it find partial-birth abortion, gun control, federally-funded infant stem cell research, or assisted suicide. Those issues are not negotiable because of their religious beliefs. Whoever the eventual nominee might be, they had better know how to communicate and build a bridge to these voters who maintain their religious beliefs, or they can expect to not win their support.


143 posted on 01/14/2007 6:44:39 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: Mia T

Absolutely brilliant. The future of far more than Israel is at stake here. Israel is but the canaryinthemine for all of western civilization.


144 posted on 01/14/2007 6:50:30 AM PST by tkathy (Sectarian violence? Or genocidal racists? Which is a better description of islamists?)
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To: zook

No one is trashing him, but merely pointing out that McCain's record of bucking the GOP at critical times have earned him a reputation as a hothead and a kook. He co-authored the most disastrous campaign "reform" in history, the McCain-Feingold Bill, which strips away First Amendment Rights. He also joined 13 other senators to manipulate the Senate confirmations of judicial nominees, thus allowing Democrats to effectively block them, even though the GOP controlled the Senate. He alienated the majority of GOP voters.


145 posted on 01/14/2007 6:53:54 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: zook

One more item about McCain. He went to meet with a religious fundamentalist leader, seeking an endorsement. After the meeting, McCain bad-mouthed the entire Religious Right. He will not win many of those people.


146 posted on 01/14/2007 6:56:05 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: zook

I call them as I see them. But I apologize for offending your sensibilities.


147 posted on 01/14/2007 6:57:11 AM PST by LibKill (ENOUGH! Take the warning labels off everything and let Saint Darwin do his job.)
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To: Popman
... If you think voting for McCain is a patriots choice, go ahead and get a big box of tissues to clean those rose colored glasses, you are going to need it

Who is going to need the tissues? I contend that the mountain toppers who won't vote for McCain will be much more persecuted under hitlery.

McCain is not my choice. His PTSD is a matter of magnitude worse than mine. If we elect McCain we elect someone whose marbles ain't all in one sack. He'd still be my choice over any filthy demonrat. Enjoy your mountaintop, zealots, while it lasts.

148 posted on 01/14/2007 7:12:41 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Popman
... Almost all "bible thumpers" are fiscal conservatives. ...

Not all Christians are 'bible thumpers'. 'Bible thumper' is a pejorative for the loud mouthed, intolerant and embarrassingly ignorant of the group. While I agree that most Christians are fiscally conservative their message is lost in the vitriol of the thumpers. Just as the illusion of the fringe of the right costs us votes from the middleground, the illusion that thumpers represent all Christians is just as counterproductive to their sects.

149 posted on 01/14/2007 7:20:02 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
These idiots are the ones who have hurt the Republican Party by turning it into the party of the bible thumpers instead of the party of fiscal conservatism.

All you care about is money?

There is much more to life than money...

I agree with Dobson and I am an atheist.

What has hurt the Republican party is the squishy moderate RINOs who cave in to the liberals, and people like you who hate the Christians just for the sake of hating them.

Blame yourself...

150 posted on 01/14/2007 7:26:43 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Popman
... this conservative site think the GOP is still or has been a conservative party since the 1990's

It is the more conservative party. Granted, that isn't saying much. We are already a socialist nation and our chains are already started to tighten. Given the weakness of our general population, the socialist GOP is all that stands in the way of totalitarian communist 'demonrat' control.

151 posted on 01/14/2007 7:29:10 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
... Blame yourself...

Issues, Francie, issues.

152 posted on 01/14/2007 7:31:22 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Mia T

Mornin' Mia, you're wonderfully right.


153 posted on 01/14/2007 7:33:18 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Torie
I don't think the Enterprisers are going to fall-in for McCain. The Pew Survey was fascinating, but it's tough to get a geographical fix on them. I'd be interested in seeing a diagram of the nation reflecting the concentrations of each group. Enterprisers sound much more like the Reagan/Wallace voters of the seventies, their sons and grandsons; gun owning military veterans whose personal industry is reflected in their income level. I don't think McCains amnesty is going to sell well when people start paying attention.

Income levels can be tricky as you well know. Liberals are concentrated in areas that are expensive, hence high incomes. It would be interesting to look at the average net worth of these groups. It is revealing, for instance, to see that the liberals don't trade securities as freqently.

154 posted on 01/14/2007 7:34:32 AM PST by MSF BU
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To: 68 grunt
'Bible thumper' is a pejorative for the loud mouthed, intolerant and embarrassingly ignorant of the group.

IOW, liberal-speak for a Christian who raises his voice in disagreement with social liberalism.

Usually on abortion, drugs, euthanasia, gambling, pornography and other social libertarian obsessions.

155 posted on 01/14/2007 7:35:24 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: 68 grunt

Asinine commentary from you doesn't help Republicans...

You want to bash the core party base and be one of those Rosie O'Donnell Republicans who equate the Christians with the Taliban...

I have no use for you, never did really...


156 posted on 01/14/2007 7:35:26 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: zook
... trashing the man smacks of irresponsibility.

And most definitely not inline with the 11 commandment.

157 posted on 01/14/2007 7:36:36 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: packrat35
Using the hillary boogeyman isn't going to work either. I will NOT vote for her either.

By not voting against her you will essentially allow her to reign unopposed. You have deserted your post during wartime.

158 posted on 01/14/2007 7:40:50 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (Waiting for Samson)
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To: TommyDale; Mia T
...the Religious Right will never accept a candidate or platform that finds abortion acceptable, nor will it find partial-birth abortion, gun control, federally-funded infant stem cell research, or assisted suicide.

I am an atheist and I won't accept that, or the illogical pervert weddings either.

This new Rosie O'Donnell wing of the party who equate the Christians with the Taliban are morons and I won't vote for them, they are liberals with fancy Madison Avenue designer labels...

159 posted on 01/14/2007 7:43:05 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: af_vet_1981
By not voting against her you will essentially allow her to reign unopposed. You have deserted your post during wartime.

The war is against liberalism and choosing between two enemies is a false choice...

160 posted on 01/14/2007 7:45:09 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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