Posted on 01/13/2007 7:30:12 AM PST by SandRat
ALTO!!! LA-MIGRA!!!!
There were stories last year about illegal aliens wandering into the bombing range and disrupting operations, too. They should put up signs warning that if you wander out onto the range, you accept the risk of getting blasted. If that's the policy for space shuttle launches, it should be that way for bombing ranges, too.
It could be that a piece of the fence is being built.
It could also be that Barry Goldwater has a bomb range named after him.
I'd like to have a bomb range named after me. It would be fitting. There are, after all, a whole bunch of people who would be pleased knowing I was getting the crap blown out of me day after day.
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One would think the range could take care of itself and the miles on either side of it would need the fence.
What makes you thing the aliens can read any language or that they would be inclined to heed signs?
Now if they will take those border agents out of jail where they don't belong.
Environut theology? Including humans not destroying, but improving buy asking for little return ?
I THINK MY HEAD IS GOING TO EXPLODE.
No mention of the best of the border protection that has been patrolling along that part of the border for a long time now--Apache Indians.
First of all, anyone who tries to cross in that area is insane. South of the border is "the tortured desert", with jagged and twisted mountains, rocky desert and no food or water. There are no trails suitable for vehicles. Not even Indians have ever lived there.
North of the border is "Hell's Trail", which is very appropriately named. To take the trail, you need two 4WD vehicles, on the assumption that one will break. One vehicle probably will. You must also carry a medium range emergency radio, and you must be armed. You must also have the permission of the US military, who approves your entire cargo manifest. It is not a nice place. Oh, and there are also a lot of UXBs laying around.
But back to the Apache Indians. Two decades ago, the US hired a small band of full blood Apaches to patrol the southern part of the Barry Goldwater Range. They have a two-way radio, and are armed with high-powered rifles and a machine gun. They "hunt" drug smugglers. They do not carry handcuffs.
Surprisingly, there has been no mention of that unit ever since it was established. I guess that, like Las Vegas, whatever happens on the Barry Goldwater Range stays in the Barry Goldwater Range.
Freeper, Excuse_M_Bellicosity, already addressed your concern with these words: "you accept the risk of getting blasted."
What we need to do is have all land owners along the border apply for commercial licenses and places for outdoor shooting ranges.
As long as they don't actually shoot at the aliens, I wholeheartedly agree with you.
But I'm afraid it won't work. Bit of fact and history...
Just outside the Coronado National Monument and 2 miles north of the border is a rock quarry that is one of several prominent wildcat ranges here in Cochise County. It has all but shut down because of the number of illegal aliens who pass through there on their way north.
The Cochise Gun Club and Sierra Vista Rod and Gun Club operate a public range at the intersection of State Highways 80 and 90. The land is leased by Arizona Game and Fish. Shooting activities there are occasionally halted due to illegal alien traffic.
The point is that even with active shooting going on, the illegals still take their chances on their way into the promised land. It's a sad state of affairs....
I've seen such stories of illegal aliens wandering on to military bases. This is just the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
Congaress, Senate and Pres, need a spine, and a brain.
BUILD THE DAMN WALL. DO YOUR JOB. UPHOLD THE OATH OF YOUR OFFICE.
IIRC, they also pass through a military base on the Mexican border and occasionally interrupt live fire exercises.
Maybe we need to change the "rules of engagement".
There's the Goldwater Range, as well as the Yuma Proving Grounds. Happens at both places.
It's no wonder they die in the summer, the famed El Camino Del Diablo runs through that area.
Maybe we ought to just put up a fence/wall on the northern perimeter of those military reservations!
Bttt!
I think we need more Apache Indians on the borders. An interesting post!
(No I'm not joking - it's an invasion - act accordingly.)
The last guy I know who drove Hell's Trail was a newly retired Marine Corps Major, who wanted one last fling at extreme living before settling down. Well, you know what they say about being careful what you wish for.
To make matters worse, he went in the heat of summer because there was a lull in training on the range.
US Army estimates in that rocky desert are that water consumption can be as high as 5 gallons per man per day in the Sonora in Summer, in the shade at rest, temps peaking around 135 degrees. And the lifetime of a new pair of black combat boots used for walking in those conditions was estimated at three days. The soles actually get soft, then pebbles split them.
From personal experience I can tell you that the water you drink doesn't seem to go anywhere, but your t-shirt gets salt crust on it. Just plain water is not enough, either, so old hands mix 1 qt with 1 tsp each of baking soda, salt, and sugar. This normalizes your body salts that can get imbalanced out there, making you feel seasick and risking heat exhaustion. You have to force yourself to urinate, and it is dark yellow to light brown in color.
In his about two week trip, he lost 10-15 pounds, one of his two vehicles, which he said was "a goner", seven tires, and had a deep and unhealthy looking tan. He was very thankful that he and his friends were not shot at, as several times they would have been on a par with whoever would be shooting with them.
He retired peacefully and lived happily ever after, as far as I know.
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