Meltdown! The world is feeling the heat of global warming. (Please help me!)

Time for Kids ^ | January 12, 2007 | None listed

[drellberg]

"In 15 years, scientists say, the snows of Kilimanjaro will simply melt away. ... Kilimanjaro is not the only place that is threatened. Glaciers and polar ice are melting. Coral reefs are dying as the seas get too warm. Lakes and rivers in colder climates are freezing later and thawing earlier each year, disrupting the life cycles of native plants and animals. What is causing this breakdown in nature?

[secretagent]

Climate Audit and Prometheus have some of the leading skeptics, with visits from some of the leading believers.

RealClimate has some of leading the believers, but may censor some of the skeptics. Some skeptics get through.

The discussions range from layman understandable to expert only.

http://www.climateaudit.org/

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=109

http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/

[Farmer Dean]

It's more than just a coincidence that the Polar ice caps on Mars are melting at the same rate as the ones on Earth.

[Porterville]

Well the think that this century temperatures will rise by 2-10 degrees.... well I guess they only have about 93 years left to prove themselves right... but this cold weather really messes up the hystera-science

[Always Right]

It was only a handful of years ago that glaciers covered much of the midwest. The great lakes were nothing but big ice cubes a mere 15,000 years ago, and these glaciers retreated without the help of the combustion engine.

[paratrooper82]

If you really are serious about what is behind the argument on "global warming" then go to "google" search engine, and punch in "UN Agenda 21" and read the agenda of the United Nations to take from Americans their private property, because they, and the enviro-wacko's do not believe in the right to own property.

The UN has state the the biggest obstacle to control of the worlds natural resources is America's private ownership of their lands. What better way to get people to surrender to local governments their rights to their land, to be monitored controlled by a government agency, than to scare the hell out of them, and accuse them of creating this earth endangerment called "global warming." Mars is also warming, did we create that too?

[wizr]

Back then they called it Global Cooling. It seems the "scientists" have to have something to bring attention to themselves.

They just can't seem to find the right patentable material to get rich any other way.

Caring about their fellow Earthlings, my rear end.

[Flatus I. Maximus]

What is causing this breakdown in nature?

Hot air from ignorant reporters and fearmongering politicians.

At risk of betraying something about who I really am or where I really work, I *know* these computer models on an intimate basis. Anyone who believes it's possible to make accurate centuries-in-advance climate predictions from small and incomplete data sets is putting an absolutely barking-mad irrational faith in hardware, software, and Fourier transformations.

But to make it simpler, ask your kids this: why do think they call it Greenland?

Because when the Vikings discovered it a thousand years ago, it was green and suitable for farming, not covered with ice.

[Wuli]

Here is a few links. After you and your kids consume these, write me back and I will give you some more from my collection.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2003-08/huoj-gwn081203.php

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1131275.stm

http://www.physorg.com/news11710.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,93466,00.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,145031,00.html

http://www.oism.org/oism/s32p686.htm

[Inyo-Mono]

sure wish we had a little global warming here 4 degrees at 6:00 a.m. bottom of the sierras has to be several degrees below 0 at higher elevation to cold to golf and way to cold to ski

6 degrees here at 7:00 am and 10 below zero at Mammoth Mtn. Ski area.

[svcw]

Global warming is scary, I mean I just read that the heat index will peek around July and August this year causing an extremely warm time. Global warming will also cause the day light to be extended in the 24 hour period.

[Wings-n-Wind]

MAYBE THIS WILL HELP...

JunkScience.com

[13Sisters76]

Your resources are infinite. Start on the Internet. One of the best known sites is a petition by Dr Fred. Seitz at www.oism.org/pproject which sprung out of an earlier "open Letter" originally written to the attendees at the enviro conference in Rio and was later highlighted during the conference in Kyoto. It was first published in the Wall Street Journal. Seitz currently has about 20,000 signatures and they are REAL scientists.

www.sepp.org is Julian Simon's site. He is dead now but was an economist at my alma mater- University of Maryland- and a great debater on this topic

Ronald Bailey: "The True State of the Planet" and "Earth Report 2000". These are dry reading as they are compilations of scientific research but necessary if you really want to know what the REAL story is.

Climate of Fear- Thomas Moore. Very good.

Environmental Overkill- Dixie Lee Ray. A former governor of Washington state. She collaborated on this book and it is well researched.

Eco Freaks- John Berlau. I'm actually reading this one now. It is also researched and provides sources. This book is a bit more entertaining than "scientific", but that doesn't mean the info offered isn't good.

Townhall.com also has several links to conservation and wise use sites from which you can "jump off" and find more info.

No one would ever suggest we shouldn't use some common sense and apply a little care to our planet, but what the left wants is control and the use of environmentalism is just another way to accomplish their means. Just about every thing they have told you for the last 30 years- from warming to holes in the ozone to having fear of asbestos and DDT are lies and it behooves us to know the real story before we hand over any more of our freedoms.

[sionnsar]

Global warming? I took this photo 48 hours ago, and there has been no melting since; I cold take the same picture right now, except a bit less snow on the trees and the drive has been shoveled. In fact, not only won't we have any melting until maybe tomorrow, according to the forecasts, we might get more snow. In my quarter-century in the Seattle area I've never seen anything like this.

[Flatus I. Maximus]

Or consider that thanks to the Romans, we have extensive records of the wine grape harvests in England during the Roman era, and yet for most of the past thousand years it's been far too cold to grow grapes in England. How does global warming explain that?

[YouGoTexasGirl]

As my husband remarked yesterday, "Al Gore is half right about global warming since NY is hotter and the west is colder and damper!" Hey, half right gets that crowd another year of free government money to earn!

[WVNan]

Judging from that 400,000 year graph we would seem to be on the verge of another ice age instead of tropical age. We are about at the apex of the other global warming ages.

[Old Professer]

Romanticizing mountains is bad.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

The Black Plague was also caused by the 'Little Ice Age' which lasted for 150 years in Europe. It hit this continent also, because the fossil record shows evidence of it. The native population migrated South during that period.

In Europe, the people were forced in doors, and were restricted to less food and foods that were less healthy. Naturally, diseases like Bubonic Plague shot through the population like wild fire as a result.

[Old Professer]

Death rattle of Freon, probably.

[little jeremiah]

I'd like a big steaming serving of global warming up here. All pipes are frozen and luckily we filled up a lot of pots a few buckets with water just in case.

Have to go out and break the deer drinking water in a few minutes. Ice is too thick for them to do it.

BTW, blam knows about this - there is a hand drawn map from around (??) 1500, a copy of a much older map, showing Antarctica WITHOUT THE ICE! Showing the land mass. Meaning:

Antarctica used to be not covered with ice.

Chew on that, global warming fans!