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To: spunkets
Taney was referring to Citizens of the states. He wasn't referring to "the people" or "persons" or "slaves" or "Negros" or anything else.

For the third and last time, Taney says, "... who were recognised as citizens in any one State of the Union ...". Not "who were recognized as US citizens" or "who were recognized as persons" or "who were recognized as 'the people'".

I'm done. I've asked you twice to read his statement and you refused. Remain ignorant for all I care.

192 posted on 01/15/2007 4:17:29 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
"Taney was referring to Citizens of the states. He wasn't referring to "the people" or "persons" or "slaves" or "Negros" or anything else. For the third and last time, Taney says, "... who were recognised as citizens in any one State of the Union ...". Not "who were recognized as US citizens" or "who were recognized as persons" or "who were recognized as 'the people'".

You are completely wrong, as I pointed out and commented at length above, especially in post #180. Taney is referring to US citizens and what they could do by virtue of being a US citizen. The partial quote you replied with cut out that part, the important part containing the subject of the sentence. The subject of the sentence is the word "It", which refers to US citizenship. You've failed to address what I said about that in your posts and cut it out altogether in your last post. Instead you've responded with avoidance, changing the subject and deception. Here's the full quote and my comment from post 180:

"Taney: "It would give to persons of the negro race, who were recognised as citizens in any one State of the Union, the right to enter every other State whenever they pleased ..."

Yes, he is indeed talking about "the people", or US citizens. US citizenship is what the word "It" refers to in the cut. "It" referrs to being one of "the people". "It", would allow him to carry weapons in any State.

I also went on to point out that no one can become a citizen, or be recognized as a citizen of any State, unless they first become a US citizen. I included that Taney was saying just that. That's why he used the word "it", he was referring to US citizenship.

"I've asked you twice to read his statement and you refused.

I commented on the full statement and did so in the context of the full ruling substatially, especially in post 180. Ignoring the whole of what was said and instead focusing on a phrase, as if it was the subject is deceptive. It is also deceptive to deliberately attempt to change the subject by introducing irrelevant points about foreigner. It is especially deceptive when those irrelevant points are erroneous, as I pointed out above. It is not surprising that you've done that, because the whole purpose of those that deny that the 2nd Amend is a right of the people is deception. It's a deception mounted in order to faciltate govm't action contrary to the Bill of Rights. It is fraud perpetrated with the intent to deny "the people" their right.

"Remain ignorant for all I care."

You haven't shown that I am ignorant in any way, shape, or form. This stands only as an ad hominem attack.

199 posted on 01/15/2007 8:32:44 AM PST by spunkets
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